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    i see nothing wrong here

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      I raise you the Ikarus 260. Still in service for whatever fucking reason.

      Also works as an electric bus since the 80s. This one is the maintenance service special.

      Also, as a train apparently.

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        I raise you the Ikarus 260. Still in service for whatever fucking reason.

        Also works as an electric bus since the 80s. This one is the maintenance service special.

        Also, as a train apparently.

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        Ikarus provided great public transit service to millions in the Eastern Bloc. The 280 hauled massive numbers of people across the main arteries.

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          I raise you the Ikarus 260. Still in service for whatever fucking reason.

          Also works as an electric bus since the 80s. This one is the maintenance service special.

          Also, as a train apparently.

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          Never change/touch a running system...?

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            Never change/touch a running system...?

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            When you don't need planned/perceived obsolescence you save resources. That said it eventually needed:

            • Low floors / no stairs
            • More efficient engine and auto gearbox / hybrid / electric drivetrain
            • AC
            • Information displays

            Newer Ikarus models have all that.

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              I raise you the Ikarus 260. Still in service for whatever fucking reason.

              Also works as an electric bus since the 80s. This one is the maintenance service special.

              Also, as a train apparently.

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              'Electric bus' usually means a bus that relays in batteries to supply electricity to the motor(s). When, instead, it uses trolly poles (plural, it needs two) it's called 'trolleybus'.

              The third one is weirder. It's like a tram/trolley, but I don't see any pole or pantograph to supply the energy. I've read about diesel 'tram-trains', essentially several trams or light rail vehicles linked together. Do you know something more about this last one?

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                'Electric bus' usually means a bus that relays in batteries to supply electricity to the motor(s). When, instead, it uses trolly poles (plural, it needs two) it's called 'trolleybus'.

                The third one is weirder. It's like a tram/trolley, but I don't see any pole or pantograph to supply the energy. I've read about diesel 'tram-trains', essentially several trams or light rail vehicles linked together. Do you know something more about this last one?

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                Technically this type of trolleybus also has a battery for very short runs so it can run between power lines.

                The last one was a temporary conversion of a 260 into a railbus near Pusztaszabolcs, and it ran on diesel which made sense as a lot of Hungarian lines were not - and still are not - electrified. It later got converted back because the large wheelbase made it struggle with turns on the line.

                These small lines in Hungary are usually serviced by BzMot diesel trains.

                I got it from Hungarian Wikipedia
                https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sínautóbusz

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                • avidamoeba@lemmy.caA [email protected]

                  Ikarus provided great public transit service to millions in the Eastern Bloc. The 280 hauled massive numbers of people across the main arteries.

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                  I was one of those millions. The great thing was that it was not only the main arteries, Budapest for example has literally hundreds of lines that were served by 260s and 280s, and while they weren't the most comfortable rides compared to models that were 30 years younger, the very fact that you could get shitfaced in downtown Budapest and get home safely with one of these to your home in the middle of nowhere even late at night, no matter where from, no matter where to, was awesome. All for the price of like 15 EUR a month, with unlimited rides.

                  Same with countryside buses, you can get from any small village to any other small village pretty easily and the network is still reasonably dense despite the people running it being equally very dense.

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                    I was one of those millions. The great thing was that it was not only the main arteries, Budapest for example has literally hundreds of lines that were served by 260s and 280s, and while they weren't the most comfortable rides compared to models that were 30 years younger, the very fact that you could get shitfaced in downtown Budapest and get home safely with one of these to your home in the middle of nowhere even late at night, no matter where from, no matter where to, was awesome. All for the price of like 15 EUR a month, with unlimited rides.

                    Same with countryside buses, you can get from any small village to any other small village pretty easily and the network is still reasonably dense despite the people running it being equally very dense.

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                    Yes, exactly. Mass public transit's value isn't in how comfortable the seat is. It's that it can move you from almost any place to any other place, "autonomously" in a reasonable amount of time and at low cost.

                    I didn't mean to imply that only main arteries were served, just that in Bulgaria for example the main arteries used the articulated 280s instead of the 260s. 😄 But yes, they were everywhere. There were Chavdars too in less busy areas:

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                      Russian van go brrrrr!

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                        Have you ever seen a boatbus?

                        You mean a ferry?

                        No no no, boatbus.

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                          I raise you the Ikarus 260. Still in service for whatever fucking reason.

                          Also works as an electric bus since the 80s. This one is the maintenance service special.

                          Also, as a train apparently.

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                          I think Tom Scott did a video about a japanese bus that can drive to the train track and transform into a train and use the track.

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                            He float.

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                              I was one of those millions. The great thing was that it was not only the main arteries, Budapest for example has literally hundreds of lines that were served by 260s and 280s, and while they weren't the most comfortable rides compared to models that were 30 years younger, the very fact that you could get shitfaced in downtown Budapest and get home safely with one of these to your home in the middle of nowhere even late at night, no matter where from, no matter where to, was awesome. All for the price of like 15 EUR a month, with unlimited rides.

                              Same with countryside buses, you can get from any small village to any other small village pretty easily and the network is still reasonably dense despite the people running it being equally very dense.

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                              No I'm sorry but public transit can only function in ultra dense urban cores. You're eityer mistaken and actually just drove drunk or are lying.

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                                I think Tom Scott did a video about a japanese bus that can drive to the train track and transform into a train and use the track.

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                                This sounds incredibly Japanese.

                                I raise you an amphibious sightseeing bus in Budapest that has regular service:

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                                  This sounds incredibly Japanese.

                                  I raise you an amphibious sightseeing bus in Budapest that has regular service:

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                                  Rotterdam has these too!

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                                    Absolutely adore these. The UAZ-452. Nicknamed Buhanka, Russian for ‘loaf of bread’ since it exactly looks like one. This version was introduced in 1965, but there’s a predecessor dating back to 1958.

                                    They actually do still make modern versions of these, complete with upgrades like a better, cleaner engine, ABS brakes and seatbelts. It’s the oldest still in production vehicle.

                                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UAZ-452

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                                      Absolutely adore these. The UAZ-452. Nicknamed Buhanka, Russian for ‘loaf of bread’ since it exactly looks like one. This version was introduced in 1965, but there’s a predecessor dating back to 1958.

                                      They actually do still make modern versions of these, complete with upgrades like a better, cleaner engine, ABS brakes and seatbelts. It’s the oldest still in production vehicle.

                                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UAZ-452

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                                      You can also play at driving one in the game Snow runner 🙂

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                                      • sharkweek@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                        You can also play at driving one in the game Snow runner 🙂

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                                        Snow runner is so awesome 😄 I’ve got hundreds of hours in it.

                                        Though honestly, the loaf isn’t as useful or customisable as I’d like it to be.

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                                          Snow runner is so awesome 😄 I’ve got hundreds of hours in it.

                                          Though honestly, the loaf isn’t as useful or customisable as I’d like it to be.

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                                          Yay, another Snowrunner player!

                                          I disagree about the Loaf, I've used it a lot - almost as much as the Fleetstar 🙂

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