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YouTube just quietly blocked Adblock Plus — the internet hasn't noticed yet, but I've found a workaround

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  • R [email protected]

    Honest question, but what makes librewolf BETTER?
    In firefox you can easily toggle off the studies telemetry bullshit in the settings. Librewolf is just firefox with those things ripped out right?

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    I feel like I’m often getting new devices or reinstalling my OSes. I restart from scratch a lot. Going through the steps to harden Firefox becomes tedious. Librewolf starts from where I want to be.

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      That does not apply to most people. Also, peertube is really getting better recently.

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      Yes even meta noticed that the qualityof videos on peertube is increased, they're illegally scraping all the content for training their closed source for-profit ai video generator

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      • O [email protected]

        People still use Ad Block Plus? Didn't it start allowing sponsored ads like 10 or 15 years ago?

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        Hence the part "nobody noticed" in the headline

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        • ohshit604@sh.itjust.worksO [email protected]

          The workaround

          Quit using YouTube directly and proxy your request through an Invidious instance.

          Your requests are mixed in with everyone else’s, ad’s are blocked and most importantly only 1 machine touches YouTube directly and that’s the server hosting Invidious.

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          Unless the instance owner is a network god, they blacklist the IP address almost immediately (they see thousands of videos watched at the same time from the same IP address, trivial to detect)

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          • omegasunkey@ani.socialO [email protected]

            You see how often growing youtubers complain about more than 85% of their viewers are not subscribed to the channel, or how just some videos have more views than their main content? The issue is that Invidious doesn't have the algorithm Youtube provides to everyone, and that not a lot of people really watch their subscribed page.

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            It's almost irrelevant to subscribe to a channel, the algorithm anyway pushes whatever it wants ignoring your requests

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            • R [email protected]

              "I've found a workaround"

              Workaround (according to article): "First of all, YouTube Premium"

              The actual workaround (according to article): "Two words: uBlock Origin. Yes, I know that Google has blocked it from its Chrome Extension store, but there is still a way to get uBlock Origin on Chrome"

              Seems like they are being paid by Google. Actual workaround should be to drop Chrome.

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              My thoughts exactly, what a heap of crap. Tom's Guide used to be one of the good ones out there, real shame.

              What I was wondering though is if they detect browser plugins through some public ID - how difficult is it to change those? In Firefox it's absolutely trivial, you can simply download the extension, open it as a zip file, and then edit the files inside with a text editor and change the ID.

              Haven't used chrome for years, but extensions used to be javascript files just as well, so I doubt they are that hard to edit. Unless they found a way to block installations from local files and enforce their shop, no idea if that's a thing.

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                Just stick with Firefox and uBlock Origin.

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                dont give them solutions, they want to be angry

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                    I mean, Firefox + uBlock Origin + SponsorBlock makes YouTube usable without giving Google more money

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                    • L [email protected]

                      I mean, Firefox + uBlock Origin + SponsorBlock makes YouTube usable without giving Google more money

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                      To my knowledge, sponsors do not give money to Google, just to the creator. So SponsorBlock isn't needed.
                      But I have to admit that some sponsored segments can be obnoxious as hell, so I can understand why one would use it.

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                      • dremor@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                        To my knowledge, sponsors do not give money to Google, just to the creator. So SponsorBlock isn't needed.
                        But I have to admit that some sponsored segments can be obnoxious as hell, so I can understand why one would use it.

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                        Ah, yes, you're right. If the focus is just on not giving money to Google then SponsorBlock is unnecessary.

                        However, I also find most sponsored segments obnoxious as hell so SponsorBlock still helps with making the YouTube experience better in general

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                        • G [email protected]

                          If on mobile, try setting it to desktop mode. Also, getting the chameleon extension and pretending you are using chrome can also help.

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                          I am not an expert so don't quote me here, but I think there are ways of bypassing the agent switcher/spoofer (like chameleon) revealing the true browser you are using... that would actually make you MORE fingerprintable.

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                          • viking@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                            My thoughts exactly, what a heap of crap. Tom's Guide used to be one of the good ones out there, real shame.

                            What I was wondering though is if they detect browser plugins through some public ID - how difficult is it to change those? In Firefox it's absolutely trivial, you can simply download the extension, open it as a zip file, and then edit the files inside with a text editor and change the ID.

                            Haven't used chrome for years, but extensions used to be javascript files just as well, so I doubt they are that hard to edit. Unless they found a way to block installations from local files and enforce their shop, no idea if that's a thing.

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                            if they detect browser plugins through some public ID - how difficult is it to change those?

                            I actually dismissed that one from the get go since there is not confirmation of any mechanism they described in the article. Not going to spend time on technical-looking explanations from someone who calls a whole another extension a "workaround". Might as well be the case of broken or outdated filters in ABP.

                            I'm sure if some major site finds a way to know your extensions we'll see some major unsolvable issues.

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                            • sexy_peach@feddit.orgS [email protected]

                              Everyone else has switched to Ublock Origin adblocker years ago 🙂 Try it, it's the only real one

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                              10+years ago since they annouced the whitelisting of adlbock plus around that time.it was around the same time youtube to started drastically increasing thier advertisements.

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                                I got a question in my head just now.

                                DNS sinkhole doesnt help with youtube ads but UBO does. DNS doesn't help with twitch ads and neither UBO does. Why is that youtube doesn't do the same what twitch does?

                                On a side note, my ads on twitch are basically "ad is in progress" screen and not an actual ad. And lately YT has couple of seconds with no video in the beginning as if it loads (1Gbit connection) but eventually loads up and plays with no interruptions after.

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                                • W [email protected]

                                  Yes even meta noticed that the qualityof videos on peertube is increased, they're illegally scraping all the content for training their closed source for-profit ai video generator

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                                  Illegally? Is training that actually illegal under any current laws?

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                                  • dremor@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                    To my knowledge, sponsors do not give money to Google, just to the creator. So SponsorBlock isn't needed.
                                    But I have to admit that some sponsored segments can be obnoxious as hell, so I can understand why one would use it.

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                                    When I'm using sponsorblock, I sometimes just stop watching if I see a long sponsor section, regardless. If the poster has like 20% of their video used to talk about shilling something, then they're probably not someone I trust.

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                                      No uBlock on my phone. 😞

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                                      On Firefox on Android you can use extensions. I've been using uBO for years on my phone.

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                                      • amir@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

                                        Illegally? Is training that actually illegal under any current laws?

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                                        I mean the content is hosted under a license that doesn't allow commercial exploitation without permission.

                                        But this doesn't stop meta because copyright laws don't apply to them, see the over 2000 porn movies that they torrented

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                                        • C [email protected]

                                          Oh my. THANK YOU for that edgeblocker! Going to get that on every computer in my home.

                                          Yeah I'm not "the boss" of my parents. My dad was very tech savvy, but he doesn't have the same memory and cognition as he used to so when I set it up nice he likes it, but any friction sets him off to "solve" the problem... By doing some random totally different thing that doesn't so much solve the problem as "gets it working, sort of" with a browser he recognizes. Then because there are ads he loses interest and just puts on the 24/7 news cycle. 😞

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                                          On the off chance that you have not heard that Linux is way more user friendly now, I recommend switching over. Especially if you are able to update the computer frequently.

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