Do you believe in reincarnation?
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NDEs are probably not drug induced... probably
wrote last edited by [email protected]I like to compare it to electronics (since our brain also runs on/with electricity): unplug old electronics and have a look what's being displayed while the memory and visuals lose their power.
But after that, it's gone.
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No.
Do you remember before being born? It's the same after.
So reincarnation is not a thing but what's to stop "you" from coming back as a new individual? After all, it happened at least once.
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It's hard to say exactly. I wouldn't put it past the dev(s) to have potentially put something like "The Egg" in, so potentially yes, though we'd have no way of testing for it.
Story by Andy Weir here: https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI
Yeah I watched that video when it was new and had it rattling around in my head. It probably why I starting thinking memories and intelligence aren't part of consciousness. I do think emotions are connected to consciousness because they seem to override decision making.
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We live in an infinite universe. As such, it seems hubristic to me to believe that we have, more or less, nature figured out.
I don't feel compelled to believe in the soul as some strange sort of object that is continuously reincarnated towards a great purpose. But if we consider consciousness as an energy of its own kind, then it should hold true that it cannot be created or destroyed, only change form. This could mean that the consciousness that resides in the body could move between different life forms like a fluid, freely mixing and melding with others, filling a new vessel as necessary.
I don't know if I can believe in a great purpose, is there an end that's meant to be reached or is it like we find the next step.
Maybe we dream, and works towards it if we achieve it; we dream again. We can enjoy it, be absolutely ambivalent, or even suffer. Maybe I can get back to appreciating the universe unfolding in front of me.
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I hope not.
I felt that way too, but then I watched re zero and that changed my mentally. I watch the anime last year
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Proof of the evidence that reparitation is suggested?
Fair request.
I did some research into the topic a year ago due to my situation and came to the stated conclusion.
So I tried to find some scientific research again right now (in a limited time frame of like 10 to 20 minutes, on my mobile).
I first tried in English bot got a lot of hits regarding companies and since my native language is not English I don't know what that word means in relation to companies and also didn't want to waste time on that.
So I tried it in German and was flooded by hits which offer that ad a service and as such of course tell you how successful it is. Obviously.
I was not able to find the research I remember within that time, I am sorry.
However in any case you'd be free to believe whatever anyway.
The point of the information I read was however that people coming out of the procedure (sometimes, possibly also accidentally) get memories planted in a well known psychological way and it is a highly untrustworthy procedure.
So that's why I didn't do it. I have enough to cope with and don't need additional fictional issues added to that
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No but I wonder if hell is being made an insect over and over.
I doubt insects are conscious because of how simple they are, but I do like that rich and Morty scene where the teacher was happy to be turn into a fly, but that's because he was in therapy for eating poop
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I did get messed up by some anxiety and have these thoughts rolling through my head so I'll leave it at cosmic horror warning.
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I'm not religious but I have thoughts about experiencing consciousness and what it is. I say that consciousness is independent of memory because we forget, clearly dependent on our physical body, etc. generally I do say that we don't know consciousness so maybe it can be reconstructed (in the can't rule out the possibility way)So I can see scenarios were my conscious could pop into existence without my memories after I die (as I'm writing this I realized that's nothing to fear).
I am trying to adopt healthier mindset of looking at everything in life as a quest, new things are a call to action, and that it's okay if everything I do amounts to little in x number of years (worked out okay for ozymandias, right?).
Im probably just rambling because my life has got boring and monotonous along with actual fear of American politics.
:::wrote last edited by [email protected]To be honest, the only answer i have to say is: "we'll see". Wheter it's nothing or not, the second option would imply that there is effectively something beyond what we know about the universe.
What even is the soul? YOU from now think very different than YOU from ten years ago. Can we say that those two people are the same? Not really. Yet you share common memories with this early you, who doesn't exist anynore. Is it technically correct in this point of view to say that you are the reincarnation of you from ten years ago?
If someone in the far future were to think like you, to remember exact memories from yours, would act the same way you would act in the same situation, it would not we wrong to say they are your reincarnation, no?
Again i'm just supposing.
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The fact that your particular molecules will reconstruct into something else is 100% certain
Will you keep your particular consciousness in this process - unlikely
However if you drop off the definition of You as your current limited body and mind, then reincarnation is exactly what happens.
This is hard to articulate, but like molecules thar make up a person constantly come in and leave the body and when their in the body they "change states". Technically while you're alive you changing into other things constantly. Person you were a second ago could be considered dead since that was a specific combination of atoms that are lost.
It just ads to the mystery of consciousness
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So reincarnation is not a thing but what's to stop "you" from coming back as a new individual? After all, it happened at least once.
That's where we get into technicalities and states of dying.
Ao while I was medically dead it wasn't so dead that it was unrecoverable. Akin to a reset. Which, depending on the state you were in and the measures taken, could also have side effects and damages.
Anyhow biologically 'you' are still there. And leaving the body is it after a bit of decay. Like a complex system falling apart unrecoverably.
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Not in the traditional sense, but I have a pet theory about the continuation of consciousness.
You can only experience being, not not-being, so even if your consciousness went dark for a million years before being âreincarnated,â there would be no gap from the perspective of your subjective experience. You can only go from having one experience to having another. Nothingness canât be experienced.
Makes me think about going into a coma from a car accident. Your consciousness could be out for however long, then you make a weird fantasy and regain consciousness and start a journey to fill recovery. It would be good to have a healthy attitude/mindset imprinted onto yourself in that scenario.
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I did get messed up by some anxiety and have these thoughts rolling through my head so I'll leave it at cosmic horror warning.
::: spoiler spoiler
I'm not religious but I have thoughts about experiencing consciousness and what it is. I say that consciousness is independent of memory because we forget, clearly dependent on our physical body, etc. generally I do say that we don't know consciousness so maybe it can be reconstructed (in the can't rule out the possibility way)So I can see scenarios were my conscious could pop into existence without my memories after I die (as I'm writing this I realized that's nothing to fear).
I am trying to adopt healthier mindset of looking at everything in life as a quest, new things are a call to action, and that it's okay if everything I do amounts to little in x number of years (worked out okay for ozymandias, right?).
Im probably just rambling because my life has got boring and monotonous along with actual fear of American politics.
:::it seems reinicarnation, is an obsession amongst western countries co-opted from india/buddhism, and incorporated into many medias.
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Fair request.
I did some research into the topic a year ago due to my situation and came to the stated conclusion.
So I tried to find some scientific research again right now (in a limited time frame of like 10 to 20 minutes, on my mobile).
I first tried in English bot got a lot of hits regarding companies and since my native language is not English I don't know what that word means in relation to companies and also didn't want to waste time on that.
So I tried it in German and was flooded by hits which offer that ad a service and as such of course tell you how successful it is. Obviously.
I was not able to find the research I remember within that time, I am sorry.
However in any case you'd be free to believe whatever anyway.
The point of the information I read was however that people coming out of the procedure (sometimes, possibly also accidentally) get memories planted in a well known psychological way and it is a highly untrustworthy procedure.
So that's why I didn't do it. I have enough to cope with and don't need additional fictional issues added to that
wrote last edited by [email protected]And they found that all this does is create false memories?
Edit: Oh you meant the hypnosis does. Yeah not sure why he recommended that part before meditation
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And they found that all this does is create false memories?
Edit: Oh you meant the hypnosis does. Yeah not sure why he recommended that part before meditation
Indeed. So the brain would create memories from context.
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Indeed. So the brain would create memories from context.
And we're 100% on this?
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And we're 100% on this?
I don't think anyone thinking scientifically will guarantee anything forever.
But according to current state of research, that is how I understood it.
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What do you mean by causal connection?
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I did get messed up by some anxiety and have these thoughts rolling through my head so I'll leave it at cosmic horror warning.
::: spoiler spoiler
I'm not religious but I have thoughts about experiencing consciousness and what it is. I say that consciousness is independent of memory because we forget, clearly dependent on our physical body, etc. generally I do say that we don't know consciousness so maybe it can be reconstructed (in the can't rule out the possibility way)So I can see scenarios were my conscious could pop into existence without my memories after I die (as I'm writing this I realized that's nothing to fear).
I am trying to adopt healthier mindset of looking at everything in life as a quest, new things are a call to action, and that it's okay if everything I do amounts to little in x number of years (worked out okay for ozymandias, right?).
Im probably just rambling because my life has got boring and monotonous along with actual fear of American politics.
:::It doesnât make sense biologically
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I felt that way too, but then I watched re zero and that changed my mentally. I watch the anime last year
Is it good? Havenât watched it yet
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Don't cherrypick qoutes.
Regardless he had to say that to give himself an out, there was concern that he'd be judged negatively for even suggesting reincarnation. Something proven by your own hostility.
When you see anyone disagreeing with you as hostility, you've clearly lost the thread.
Stop trying to twist his words in weird ways that benefit your stance, he very literally said we shouldn't believe.
