Bethesda's re-releases and remasters are getting outta control.

[cocaineshrimp@sh.itjust.works]

The problem is that it's believable at this point

[warm@kbin.earth]

I don't mind remasters if they are that - remasters. Faithful graphical updates to the originals (e.g. Halo 2 Anniversary). But a lot of the time they are janky remakes instead by outsourced development for as cheap as possible. They usually end up as insults to the originals.

[grass@sh.itjust.works]

Halo 2 anniversary was good but I'm one of those people that would have preferred halo 1 campaign remade in the halo 2 engine instead of having a visual overlay with the collisions from the original models

[warm@kbin.earth]

If that's your fancy then sure, but I much prefer a remaster, especially when you can swap on the fly between old and new, I feel like that should be a requirement for them. You can't really do that with a remake, as the physics etc will be different.

[grass@sh.itjust.works]

the only reason to switch for me was if it was a better visual reference for alignment of glitch maneuvers or if the collisions were off by too much. For me nostalgia filter makes the original look better in my memories than when I actually go look at it again, and if the game is 100% identical under the hood I will exploit every bug and glitch out of habit even if I don't want to.

I suppose with a game that old there is a good chance of something similar to what happened to majora's mask 3ds happening (character movement worse, boss mechanics dumbed down to the point of being insulting but also not even working well) if they were to change much more.

[joeffect@lemmy.world]

Okay, hear me out... I have no place for this anymore because conspiracy theories are overrun by super crazy people... but that's not my point right now...

So, my conspiracy theory is that some government entity established satirical websites as a means to spread misinformation or to desensitize the population..

It's really strange that like pre 2008 (i dont have excat dates here), there were basically none of these kinds of sites, and then they started popping up everywhere...

It's one of those things that I believe got us to this point...

But I'm probably crazy and wrong who knows

[warm@kbin.earth]

It's just nice to see what's changed in X amount of years. People who wouldn't have bought the original will buy the remaster, then be able to see the old graphics, maybe even prefer it. To get a firsthand look at the original is a nice touch, understanding how they built the world with the limitations they had and to see how far we have come. But each to their own.

[fartmaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

The problem I have with remasters is how they fundamentally change the art direction so often.

They’re good supplements to their original, but I don’t think they’re fit replacements.

[warm@kbin.earth]

Agreed.

Probs because they are usually outsourced for cheap with little direction from the main studio, "as long as its good enough". And/or the main studio has completely changed since the original and they just dont have the same respect for it.

[papalonian@lemmy.world]

"the government spreads conspiracy theories" has been a (proven) theory since conspiracy theories existed

[skulblaka@sh.itjust.works]

I can assure you with absolute certainty that satire has been an established tradition for a very long time before 2008

[fartmaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

It’s weird when applied to other mediums, nobody is out there repainting the Mona Lisa in a modern art style then marketing it as the “new” Mona Lisa and going as far as to replace the original with it.

The closest parallel I can think of would be remake/remasters in film but even then you’d be hard pressed to not start an argument with Star Wars nerds over mention of the remasters.

[brucethemoose@lemmy.world]

The original Oblivion was the first AAA game I played!

IMO giving good games a second wave of hype like that isn't a bad thing, as long as it's not totally butchered.

...But Skyrim (specifically the latest re-release) has aged better than Oblivion, I'd say. It's kinda past a threshold where the visuals are okay enough, and gameplay ergonomic enough, where even the original isn't so jarring compared to, say, KCD II and all its hyper fanciness. Like, Daggerfall -> Morrowind was a different world, Morrowind -> Oblivion was like you're in reality, Oblivion -> Skyrim was dramatic, but... stuff after that feels more like icing?

[skulblaka@sh.itjust.works]

Counterpoint, the System Shock 1 remake was an absolute banger and probably would not have been possible in the modern ecosystem as a faithful remaster. It absolutely needed to be cooked again from the ground up, and Night Dive did this very skillfully and turned a game that, while good, was notoriously difficult to parse and control, into a modern immersive sim RPG shooter that anyone can understand.

Remakes can be good when the team behind them understands the product that they are remaking and the audience that will be playing it.

[outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Speaking as someone who got literally any humanities education:

The whole 'predictive programming' thing only works on absolute inhumanly stupid dumbfucks who unironically join the 'homelander' fan club. People need to be made that stupid, and doing it while teaching them how to read and fo arithmetic was a hell of an achievement.

[nikls94@lemmy.world]

• Carrots are good for your eyesight

• the [common enemy] did it

• Fats are bad for you

This aes but three of many.

[outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

The thing is with how tes5 went they kiiiiind of need to have nazi elves as the bad guys they were setting up, and they kiiiiind of need to be extremely the bad guys, and thats gonna be rough in the current political climate-they're literally in the same city as a naval academy and nsa hq; it would be super awkward.

I mean, they should, but they're kind of owned by MS so...

Edit: or we coukd just say that making an mmo is the end of any series.

[oneser@lemmy.zip]

But you provide no references, which mean none exist! My god, maybe this commenter is on to something and satire was invented in 2008 to turn us into sheeple!

(I love a good/shit conspiracy theory and stand equally behind op and this comment)

[krunklom@lemmy.zip]

Lies. Voltaire was a deep state psy op

[gork@sopuli.xyz]

The trailer could use a remaster though