Teddybears - Punkrocker
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No, people who sherk their humanity, willingly and emphatically, do NOT deserve to be humanized. Yes, we need to remember they are humans, but they are terrible people who choose to be terrible. Only a fucking moron or a fellow terrible person thinks they deserve to be treated better than they treat others.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Whether they deserve it or not, I won't dehumanize them; because I don't want to become someone who dehumanizes others.
I will certainly fight them, I will resist them, but I will not consider them anything but human.
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Death of Superman, Reign of Supermen, Superman Allstar. There are many film/scenarios, where superman has to fight someone actually stronger than he is. Even in Justice League Dark Apokolips, he is captured first, and then injected with Kryptonite.
Your friend needs to watch/read more DC content.
Some more examples with spoilers below.
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
He even got mind controlled by Poison Ivy once. Hell, in the new game, Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League, he is mind controlled by Brainiac, and Wonder Woman having Kryptonite didn't protect her from Superman.Superman has also done questionable things, even without being mind controlled, like in Batman The Dark Knight Returns Part 2, it is implied that he ripped out one arm of Oliver Queen, aka, Green Arrow, who was also member of Justice League, because the government of USA wanted to stop vigilantes. Then he also almost killed Batman, after being almost killed by Batman.
:::I think power on that scale gets harder to parse, a little bit like Dragonball Z fights. Many of Goku's adversaries are capable of destroying whole planets, which makes anything else that happens in a season feel insignificant.
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Because "woke"/liberal/left/PC mob/etc arent the exact same thing just coming from the other side? For every right wing grifter, theres a left wing grifter do the same thing. Winding everyone up.
One side is actively building a fascist state. The other is not. Sit down.
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At the same time, I like that the antagonists of the boys are people with nuance.
The best shows and stories are ones where both sides believe they are doing what is best for everyone, but disagree on what's best for everyone... Like Thanos. His idea was good in concept, his execution? Not great.
Man, bit of a tangent, but even as a fast thought experiment, Thanos's idea was bad. Just his motivation was (debatably) good.
The problem is, the vast majority of species populations can easily double in a generation, given plentiful resources - and plentiful resources was what he was aiming for! Even if everything went exactly as he thought it would, he's just kicked the can down the road for one generation.
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He has outlined this explicitly multiple times in every appearance he’s ever made in anything. It takes a dangerously fucking stupid individual to use him as a symbol for police or justice. The creator of The Punisher has even outlined this in real life too many times to mention.
At this point, my best guess is these guys just don't actually read any Punisher material.
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The funniest thing is that the superhero they have a problem with is Superman.
If it were Batman, that would be different. Batman isn't a pure-hearted hero, he's a more complex character. If it had been someone in the X-Men, or pretty much any Avenger other than Captain America, there would be room for a discussion.
But, Superman is such a good, kind-hearted hero that it's basically impossible to be a good person and be anti-Superman.
Batman is just a rich guy playing edgy superhero.
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Just verification that they know their views are despicable at some level, even if they refuse to admit it to themselves.
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Who said I won't attack them? Of course I would, and have. But within the law, without dehumanizing them.
You call me pathetic, although I'm actively fighting against the far right, oppression and crimes against humanity.
You, on the other hand, show you are just as bad as they are.
within the law
lol
their death camps will be perfectly legal
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within the law
lol
their death camps will be perfectly legal
They're not, but is that an excuse to be lawless too? If the enemy commits war crimes, how are you any better if you do the same?
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At this point, my best guess is these guys just don't actually read any Punisher material.
wrote last edited by [email protected]They don’t. And to top it off they probably make fun of people who do read comics. Like when republicans were up in arms about Jon Kent being bi screaming “THEY MADE SUPERMAN GAY!” Mother fuckers, you don’t even know who the fuck Jon Kent is.
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Just verification that they know their views are despicable at some level, even if they refuse to admit it to themselves.
and/or they looj at lex and worship him for all the wrong reasons.
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> Superman doesn’t have politics in the sense I’m talking about.
> He’s just on the side of freedom, peace, and good.
Damn, you a dense one huh
No, they're saying the specific choices Gunn made with the story is politicizing it. Making it a direct, near 1-1 allegory with two major conflicts in the world right now is a touch on the nose.
... but that said, it's still a stupid position to hold. There is a lot of bad crap going on in the world. Chances are, most scripts with Superman doing his thing would have some association to current events, since it's set in a world close to "now" IRL.
Wanting entertainment to be devoid of modern politics yet set in current time is just silly. It takes drastically different settings to make it easy to have both a compelling story with conflict and devoid of modern politics.
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I love his character, the actor really does a great job. But he's super evil. He's a great representation to the real world, as many people think there's no collateral damage too great to justify reaching their goal. Dehumanizing others, committing war crimes, hunger for power, forcing their beliefs onto others. I despise people like that.
But there are people who think otherwise: See this
Is he doing a great job? I thought he was just portraying himself.
Nah for real, if he's not a psychopath in real life, he must be a tremendous actor.
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Batman is just a rich guy playing edgy superhero.
In batman the villians are the stars.Batman is a lunatic occasionally playing rich playboy to finance his crusade against crime, born from untreated trauma.
And most of his villains are just as insane as him.
Gotham is basically a vicious circle of maniacs driving each other further insane.
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Because "woke"/liberal/left/PC mob/etc arent the exact same thing just coming from the other side? For every right wing grifter, theres a left wing grifter do the same thing. Winding everyone up.
Name a few.
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If only they were arguing with themselves. The problem is everyone else who picks a side, and then jumps in arse first with a lot of opinions and very little information that isnt just headlines and buzzwords. People are so fucking angry all the time. And they blame the "other side" for it, not once considering that for every right wing grifter, theres a left wing grifter turning the screw just as hard in order to get likes, shares and subscribes.
Only the time of the online influencer became a thing, we were all fucked. Covid just accelerated to ludicrous speed, and now dark helmet is up all our asses.
Are you really comparing online influencers to actual governmental powers literally stripping our rights and caging people for having the wrong skin color in the name of theocratic fascism while supporting a literal “religious” genocide?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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I never said they lied, I said they were right and blind blind at the same time.
How can you be such a stupid bumbling sycophantic fuck stick?
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Maybe a decent Superman game could emphasize the D in DC comics; and have you mostly play as Clark Kent trying to solve a mystery, occasionally using X-Ray vision or Super Speed to gather facts. A common challenge might be trying to get past a security desk to find answers without triggering any alarms or causing the guard harm.
Or they could do something like the One Punch Man game, where you can select Saitama and he will destroy anyone else without effort (unless it's a mirror match, in which case it's a normal fight). But, because it's Saitama, he's always running late.
So you pick teams of 3 and if Saitama is on yout team, you have to survive with just 2 until he gets there.
So a game where you play as someone else but superman can show up and stomp everything before going off to do something else could work. You've gotta survive until he gets there and maybe do things to get his attention or help resolve some other issue he's dealing with.
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The funniest thing is that the superhero they have a problem with is Superman.
If it were Batman, that would be different. Batman isn't a pure-hearted hero, he's a more complex character. If it had been someone in the X-Men, or pretty much any Avenger other than Captain America, there would be room for a discussion.
But, Superman is such a good, kind-hearted hero that it's basically impossible to be a good person and be anti-Superman.
But, Superman is such a good, kind-hearted hero that it's basically impossible to be a good person and be anti-Superman.
Right, the main complaint is that he's so perfect it's boring.
And also that he has a pretty Western/USA centric sense of morality, which you think Western chauvinists like conservatives would eat right up.
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Because "woke"/liberal/left/PC mob/etc arent the exact same thing just coming from the other side? For every right wing grifter, theres a left wing grifter do the same thing. Winding everyone up.
Somebody felt a little called out, huh?
