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    read about nazi germany it will be too late

    in the US they are playing boiling the frog and soon they’ll escalate all the way, it will happen fast and violent

    i’m not advocating violence, I’m saying we’re going to regret not having done so

    paradox of tolerance should be required study

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    read about nazi germany it will be too late

    Dude, my entire family was in the resistance. My great grandfather hid jews on his farm, was captured, tortured and died in a concentration camp. My family smuggled crashed British pilots back to England and liquidated traitors (family in my mother's side) and blew up train tracks and communication lines (family on my father's side). When my grandfather died, we found a huge walk-in closet filled with gas masks, emergency food, machine guns and ammo, a chest filled with hand grenades. In The Netherlands. I've had a lot of history lessons in school. Plain history, political history, economic history. I know a lot about nazis, how they come to power, how they work.

    I see what's happening right now. The lack of democratic and media resistance right now leads to them gaining power, which will lead us having to escalate to more violent and unlawful measures. I don't want it to come like that, that's why I'm politically fighting the far right in my country (and fighting fake news) and even though they have taken too much power in my eyes, they can't just do whatever the fuck they want.

    The US, however, is a failed state and the democrats were way to passive (and also too right wing themselves). So there's no hope. Violence may be the only option. But just don't dehumanize your enemy, don't treat others how you don't want to be treated yourself.

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      Sit down/shut up... spoken like a true fascist. I mean, you all could have had Bernie in 2016, and the world would never know what a Trump presidency looks like. I wonder what happened there... In 2020, you could had any one of the over a dozen democratic nominees who had a free health care plan for the US. But you ended up with ONE old as fuck dude who wasnt interested in it. I wonder why.... And then in 2024, instead of keeping on going with the clearly far too fucking old dude, or binning him much earlier, he got kicked out, and some chick that was so not good enough that her healthcare plan was actually laughed at. And then just last December, when AOC was nailed on for a committee seat, that same fucking ghoul, came out of the shadows to make sure that some old as fuck guy with fucking cancer, got the seat instead. Thats right, the party you think is so fucking amazing, choose a 75 year old man with cancer, over a 35 year old woman in her prime... I wonder fucking why...

      You lot, youre so fucking blinded by the rot that tells you what to do and what to think, that you never consider that its the whole system thats fucked, and youre all just being pitted against each other so you dont notice.

      Oh, and the 75 year old man with cancer? Dead. 4 fucking months he lasted, and guess who STILL doesnt have the committee seat...

      You sit the fuck down, and open your fucking eyes. All of you.

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      why don't you tell us how you really feel

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      • R [email protected]

        So basically exactly what the story said the romans did.

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        And yet we see ourselves as smarter than those who came before us.

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        • lisk91@sh.itjust.worksL [email protected]

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2oqXCtCiik

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          Why does the new superman look like such an idiot? The uniform also looks kinda weird and like he's wearing a red diaper over an I'll fitting suite.

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            Keep pleading for their respect when they have a gun to the back of your head. I'm sure that will work.

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            Tbh, I do agree with him that we shouldn't dehumanize. Fascists are humans, who deserve to be put down. There. Easy. No dehumanization, and you can still say that they deserve bullets blowing their brains out the back their heads.

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              Is he doing a great job? I thought he was just portraying himself.

              Nah for real, if he's not a psychopath in real life, he must be a tremendous actor.

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              Anthony Starr is knocking it out of the park. Amazing performance.

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                I love his character, the actor really does a great job. But he's super evil. He's a great representation to the real world, as many people think there's no collateral damage too great to justify reaching their goal. Dehumanizing others, committing war crimes, hunger for power, forcing their beliefs onto others. I despise people like that.

                But there are people who think otherwise: See this

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                I guess I wasn't trying to say there's absolutely no-one that idolises homelander. Some people watch Star Wars and want Darth Vader to win. There's not many of them, and social media tends to amplify the "edge lord" opinions.

                Just that I thought sometimes pearl-clutchers can see people enjoying something that contains horrific aspects and interpret it as meaning those people support horrific things.

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                  Being a human is very, very different than having humanity. People need to realize these are humans ... who willingly betray their humanity.

                  They are literally and directly enemies of humanity, who need to be treated as such.

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                  Right - fight them! Resist them! But do not let them push you into being inhuman yourself.

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                    read about nazi germany it will be too late

                    Dude, my entire family was in the resistance. My great grandfather hid jews on his farm, was captured, tortured and died in a concentration camp. My family smuggled crashed British pilots back to England and liquidated traitors (family in my mother's side) and blew up train tracks and communication lines (family on my father's side). When my grandfather died, we found a huge walk-in closet filled with gas masks, emergency food, machine guns and ammo, a chest filled with hand grenades. In The Netherlands. I've had a lot of history lessons in school. Plain history, political history, economic history. I know a lot about nazis, how they come to power, how they work.

                    I see what's happening right now. The lack of democratic and media resistance right now leads to them gaining power, which will lead us having to escalate to more violent and unlawful measures. I don't want it to come like that, that's why I'm politically fighting the far right in my country (and fighting fake news) and even though they have taken too much power in my eyes, they can't just do whatever the fuck they want.

                    The US, however, is a failed state and the democrats were way to passive (and also too right wing themselves). So there's no hope. Violence may be the only option. But just don't dehumanize your enemy, don't treat others how you don't want to be treated yourself.

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                    then don’t act fucking surprised

                    not reading the rest of that wall, you should know better

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                      why don't you tell us how you really feel

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                      How I really feel is that because of people like you, and every other culture war weirdo, is why we have Trump in the first place. You all got the America you deserve. Just a shame its other people paying the price for it. But Im sure you'll be OK, youve got your worthless internet points...

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                        Why does the new superman look like such an idiot? The uniform also looks kinda weird and like he's wearing a red diaper over an I'll fitting suite.

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                        Bruh, Superman has always looked corny

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                        • B [email protected]

                          I never said they lied, I said they were right and blind blind at the same time.

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                          And what are they blind to (you know, the obvious question you were being asked)?

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                            I guess I wasn't trying to say there's absolutely no-one that idolises homelander. Some people watch Star Wars and want Darth Vader to win. There's not many of them, and social media tends to amplify the "edge lord" opinions.

                            Just that I thought sometimes pearl-clutchers can see people enjoying something that contains horrific aspects and interpret it as meaning those people support horrific things.

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                            I think there's a pretty big difference between someone rooting for the dark space wizard against the light space wizards in a story set in outer space, vs taking the side of a psychopathic superman in a show that's literally about calling out fascist chuds and male power fantasies, in a world that is meant to directly mirror our own.

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                              The thing is, I'm not pleading for their respect. I won't get it. I just won't lower myself to their level so I will not grant them the argument "see, they are doing the same".

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                              Reflexive simplistic judgement without willingness to pull apart or confront uncomfortable ideas that may threaten orthodoxy; most antifascist thought.

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                                Bruh, Superman has always looked corny

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                                Cavill's one looked badass

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                                  They're not, but is that an excuse to be lawless too? If the enemy commits war crimes, how are you any better if you do the same?

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                                  You shouldn't need an excuse to be lawless; laws are usually bad, and never good in cases where something else wouldn't do the trick.

                                  They're a tool for the powerful to save face and appropriate progressive efforts when on the defensive, to divide us and keep us complacent when they're on the offensive. They are the shield and sword of injustice. Not a fan.

                                  Your conscience, fine. But laws? That is, at best; clown shit.

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                                    read about nazi germany it will be too late

                                    Dude, my entire family was in the resistance. My great grandfather hid jews on his farm, was captured, tortured and died in a concentration camp. My family smuggled crashed British pilots back to England and liquidated traitors (family in my mother's side) and blew up train tracks and communication lines (family on my father's side). When my grandfather died, we found a huge walk-in closet filled with gas masks, emergency food, machine guns and ammo, a chest filled with hand grenades. In The Netherlands. I've had a lot of history lessons in school. Plain history, political history, economic history. I know a lot about nazis, how they come to power, how they work.

                                    I see what's happening right now. The lack of democratic and media resistance right now leads to them gaining power, which will lead us having to escalate to more violent and unlawful measures. I don't want it to come like that, that's why I'm politically fighting the far right in my country (and fighting fake news) and even though they have taken too much power in my eyes, they can't just do whatever the fuck they want.

                                    The US, however, is a failed state and the democrats were way to passive (and also too right wing themselves). So there's no hope. Violence may be the only option. But just don't dehumanize your enemy, don't treat others how you don't want to be treated yourself.

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                                    They dehumanize themselves. Like, aspirationally. On purpose.

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                                      I think there's a pretty big difference between someone rooting for the dark space wizard against the light space wizards in a story set in outer space, vs taking the side of a psychopathic superman in a show that's literally about calling out fascist chuds and male power fantasies, in a world that is meant to directly mirror our own.

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                                      Scifi and fantasy also try to mirror the real world. In star wars, the whole story about the empire and the rebellion is basically the story of any great Empire in history. It becomes too big, crooked people take over, it becomes corrupt, it becomes too restricted, too evil to keep power, rebels will fight against oppression and the empire will fall. With a new government filling the vacume, and the whole story starts over again. Heroes become villains. Good guys become bad. They all have their reasons, they all have twisted justifications for their actions. Whatever filter is used, it's mirroring society. Whether it's space scifi, fantasy or super heroes.

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                                        And what are they blind to (you know, the obvious question you were being asked)?

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                                        I guess your blind too, since Ive already answered that question multiple times. You must be the most simple of all the culture war weirdos.

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                                          I can take a guess as to the hat you wear.

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                                          So you can guess the hat I wear, but you cant guess that Im not American? insert "you must be a special kind of stupid" meme right here.

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