I love bpd girls
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I'm diagnosed with BPD and met (quite some) other people who were diagnosed over the years. I think your theory is bullshit – but not in a rude way, it just doesn't fit what I know about BPD and the women diagnosed with BPD I got to know.
Generally, I would compare mental illness to the personality theory of temperament (in this case flavour of neurodiversity) + experience
Modern treatment methods often follow a bio-psychological or bio-psycho-social model. This is a oversimplification, but BPD is usually a biological/genetic predisposition to be more emotional + bad experiences in your childhood, leading to strong negative emotions and the lack of mechanisms to regulate those emotions, which cumulates in impulsivity, unhealthy coping mechanisms etc later on.
There's overlap with the vague concept of hypersensitivity and ADHD; there's differential diagnosis too, which is "hey, this can be similar to that, let's diagnose properly before we do anything"; and there's comorbidity.
I agree that trauma plays a big role, and I would go so far as to claim every BPD person is traumatized in a way that justifies therapy, but PTSD is a specific diagnosis, just like autism is.
My personal experience is that doctors and institutions (ie. hospital, work, university) are just far more friendly towards the dual diagnosis. ASD is treated as, I don’t necessarily accept “disability”, but special circumstances, and is generally well catered for given enough back and forth with the correct departments. And PTSD is quite favourably treated as things that happened to you rather than because of you, which it always feels is kind of the assumption once people hear the BPD diagnosis.
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Can't find the study anymore but women with traits associated with BPD seem to be perceived as more attractive for men. I think it was in Psychology Today. Very interesting.
The manic pixie dream girl has tempted many a fool with her clever illusions
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The manic pixie dream girl has tempted many a fool with her clever illusions
I'm immune to this, I only find it irritating and annoying. Which seems to be rather rare. I guess I miss something most men have. But I'm glad because I've seen the scorched earth manic pixie dream girls leave behind numerous times...
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Same here. She really, really loved me, in her way, and I love(d) her. Closest I've had yet to something long-term sustainable. But was it tho? She compared me to Jesus and called me a sex god. She drew my penis as art. Touched me constantly. Said I looked and smelled like a French king (it was well-intentioned). Really took an interest in my hobbies--to the point that they became her hobbies and it became a lot. We were really, really close. I ended up having to call the police on her when she finally confessed to the cheating and it ended. She shaved her head and moved to Indonesia. As with the highs, so with the lows.
Damn you can just up and move to Indonesia like that?
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My personal experience is that doctors and institutions (ie. hospital, work, university) are just far more friendly towards the dual diagnosis. ASD is treated as, I don’t necessarily accept “disability”, but special circumstances, and is generally well catered for given enough back and forth with the correct departments. And PTSD is quite favourably treated as things that happened to you rather than because of you, which it always feels is kind of the assumption once people hear the BPD diagnosis.
wrote last edited by [email protected]So like, stigmatization even from professionals? Yeah I can see that. It's absolutely not what I experienced so far, quite the opposite; but I haven't been to each and every psych ward in my country haha.
Maybe I just didn't like your phrasing? Because it's different if you straight up say: The diagnosis and treatment in psychiatry is flawed and still has a long way to go; if you personally suffer from BPD and don't get the treatment you know you need, get diagnosed with ASD and PTSD to get proper treatment; directly addressing the problems of an established diagnosis and treatment system which is only very sluggishly changing.
edit: if you're interested in this kind of stuff, search for "OPD-3", it tries to address the rigidity problem the ICD-10 and DSM-5 have
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The manic pixie dream girl has tempted many a fool with her clever illusions
Yeah i just straight up say 'evil fairy queen. Want a snack?'
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My personal experience is that doctors and institutions (ie. hospital, work, university) are just far more friendly towards the dual diagnosis. ASD is treated as, I don’t necessarily accept “disability”, but special circumstances, and is generally well catered for given enough back and forth with the correct departments. And PTSD is quite favourably treated as things that happened to you rather than because of you, which it always feels is kind of the assumption once people hear the BPD diagnosis.
Yes but have you considered that some people who need help are inconvenient and so need to be pujished?
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I think this as well, though I have no formal training in psychology. My perspective comes from a lifelong interest in learning across fields and from having several family members who struggled with mental health, often dismissed as hysterical, crazy, over-emotional, or immature. Decades later, many of them received diagnoses of comorbid autism and CPTSD. I believe that within the next 5–10 years, assuming the DSM can be inured against political editorialization, autism diagnoses will be further refined and the spectrum will become more granular and specific.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Autism+sufficiently complicated ptsd in the context of our society can look very verrrrry much exactly like the diagnostic criteria for bpd.
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*She can fix herself, given the internal motivation, a stable environment, and a whole lotta patience and earned trust
Source: gf has BPD and I'm really proud of her
stable environment
And a magical unicorn to ride through it.
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stable environment
And a magical unicorn to ride through it.
Stability is relative.
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Only one of them is out to kill you though. The other is a cook and is cutting onions while another just had the most masive shit of her life.
Classic Poop knife ...
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The flipside is the meds will numb the qualities that make such people so special in the first place
Which is what they suffer from.
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you won't have the time or energy for sex
skill issue
wrote last edited by [email protected]This situation lead to me attempting suicide. I failed. Is that also a skill issue?
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This situation lead to me attempting suicide. I failed. Is that also a skill issue?
You still seem deeply traumatized. The way you speak about your experience is something that reminds me of myself and other people's communication with unprocessed traumatic experiences.
You experience is valid, but the way you generalize and demonize BPD/mentally ill women is not. You can't expect to get any pity or validation by randomly trauma dumping in a shitposting community. Getting angry and generalizing is often the first step towards healing, but... This is not the place to do it.
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How does the post blame the guy?
Genuinely curious because i'm not seeing it..
So how do you interpret the toxic masculinity line in the middle?
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Yes but have you considered that some people who need help are inconvenient and so need to be pujished?
I pujish myself enough tbh
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I pujish myself enough tbh
Okay but what if someone were hurting and we didnt add enough extra hurt and nope and ouch to them? Like didnt really use all our various mavhineries to apply the makinh things worse to the already bad. Wouldn't that be horrible? How would you tolerate a philosophical or political or social system that failed to even create sufficiently concentrated suffering? If it couldn't, youd need to add suffering til it did, right?
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You still seem deeply traumatized. The way you speak about your experience is something that reminds me of myself and other people's communication with unprocessed traumatic experiences.
You experience is valid, but the way you generalize and demonize BPD/mentally ill women is not. You can't expect to get any pity or validation by randomly trauma dumping in a shitposting community. Getting angry and generalizing is often the first step towards healing, but... This is not the place to do it.
You're accusing me of generalizing/demonizing women with BPD in a thread questioning if sex with mentally ill people is "worth it". Get off your high horse and spare me your armchair psychoanalysis.
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You're accusing me of generalizing/demonizing women with BPD in a thread questioning if sex with mentally ill people is "worth it". Get off your high horse and spare me your armchair psychoanalysis.
No I just don't want to tell you straight up to just shut the fuck up. And I'm not accusing you, you obviously fucking did. You phrased it as if your experience is representative of all experiences, without any nuance, empathy, and expressed a deep grudge you still seem to hold. Nobody needs armchair psychoanalysis to tell you that that's obviously something you still need to work on and not something to share as a reply to someone asking why BPD people bang better.
There's plenty of ways to tell people "a relationship with a mentally ill person is a commitment and might backfire; be careful" - "she will fuck your neighbor and I almost killed myself" is arguably one of the shittier ones.
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No I just don't want to tell you straight up to just shut the fuck up. And I'm not accusing you, you obviously fucking did. You phrased it as if your experience is representative of all experiences, without any nuance, empathy, and expressed a deep grudge you still seem to hold. Nobody needs armchair psychoanalysis to tell you that that's obviously something you still need to work on and not something to share as a reply to someone asking why BPD people bang better.
There's plenty of ways to tell people "a relationship with a mentally ill person is a commitment and might backfire; be careful" - "she will fuck your neighbor and I almost killed myself" is arguably one of the shittier ones.
Framing something as "In my experience" precludes me attaching any objective truth to what I'm about to say let alone any broad-based assessment of a group of people. Would you have preferred "In my opinion", you pedantic clown?
I recommend you stop trying to diagnose people on the Internet like a Redditor who just finished a required 101 course.
Don't tone police me, asshole. I'm not compromising my sincerity nor am I going to blunt my language just so strangers on the Internet feel better about themselves. Don't like it? Keep fucking scrolling.
