What is the scariest shit you can think of?
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Maybe (I believe so, ofc, peep the username
), but you can't "know" (and yes, I understand epistemologically "objective truths" are at least somewhat unreachable but if I don't hold the apple whilst on Earth it will inevitably fall), you just have to take it on faith.wrote last edited by [email protected]Here's a question Id like to know the answer too. Where does consciousness come from? I guess everyone has the same question but more specifically. Is it just like the testing and probing of systems in-between the movement of data or 'matter'?
Say consciousness has an echo. Like if the system was removed but the energy remains and is still experiencing entropy. As it dissipates into infinity could it maybe persist by finding a new system that is similar to the one it use to inhabit? Doesn't it do that constantly. Like the synapses that make up your consciousness arent the same synapses they were before. Consciousness latches on to itself, a continuum of processes that make it a whole. As the energy that makes up consciousness fades into nothing it travels through infinite amounts of states before we can no longer observe it and even after. If it were layered onto a 'new dimension' that was similar enough to the previous one, would it latch?
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pure void - just a void, not death, a void
wrote last edited by [email protected]Nothing, void, doesnt feel scared.
Unless it did.
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Bears. They don’t kill you right away, they just crush your face and start gobbling at your gutty works. Sometimes they leave for a bit to digest while you’re still not dead and come back to finish their meal later.
There are existential horrors and real life scenarios that are probably worse than death, but bears still take the cake for me.
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Being tied to a chair, lights and a video camera in your face with someone behind you waving a long knife, hand on your shoulder chanting Allahu Akbar over and over...
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pure void - just a void, not death, a void
If it's not death, that just sounds like the best sleep possible.
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If it's not death, that just sounds like the best sleep possible.
till you wake and try to get any form of input or stimulus from your surroundings ^*
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I see nothing wrong with your logic. Acceptance of death is in some peoples opinion the main function of religion.
It's both a tool for self restraint and social eudaimonia (especially for those who cannot conceive being righteous out of personal pride and self respect), and a way to make peace with death.
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till you wake and try to get any form of input or stimulus from your surroundings ^*
wrote last edited by [email protected]Sounds like a great place for meditation.
Pedantic thought experiment side note that is ironically long for a side note:
How is it a void if it contains the ecosystems and consciousness(ess? (Gut biome and the various microscopic skin mites, etc)) of a human body?
That's a fuck ton of biology, physics, chemistry, philosophy, etc for a space where nothing is supposed to be. Does time also exist there? Because if it didn't you couldn't be aware of your self in there, so that would be a problem solved.
If time does exist in this void though, by entering the void you will have changed its nature, it will stop being a void and it starts just being more of you. ...And if you still can't feel anything, I think this is called depression.
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Here's a question Id like to know the answer too. Where does consciousness come from? I guess everyone has the same question but more specifically. Is it just like the testing and probing of systems in-between the movement of data or 'matter'?
Say consciousness has an echo. Like if the system was removed but the energy remains and is still experiencing entropy. As it dissipates into infinity could it maybe persist by finding a new system that is similar to the one it use to inhabit? Doesn't it do that constantly. Like the synapses that make up your consciousness arent the same synapses they were before. Consciousness latches on to itself, a continuum of processes that make it a whole. As the energy that makes up consciousness fades into nothing it travels through infinite amounts of states before we can no longer observe it and even after. If it were layered onto a 'new dimension' that was similar enough to the previous one, would it latch?
I don't know if this is a question that can be answered, and certainly not a question I have an answer to (or at least not a satisfactory one besides "everything comes from the Creator", like, duh, ofc). I can tell you, from personal experience, that consciousness is not the mind, which is shaped by experience and ideology, but is behind it. A consciousness watching a mind watching a body, that's the human experience. Recent studies (with some experimental backing!) talk about 'tubules' in the structure of the neurons and quantum physics which, to me, sound promising, if you're interested (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reduction). And that's all the insight I can provide on the matter, sorry!
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Sounds like a great place for meditation.
Pedantic thought experiment side note that is ironically long for a side note:
How is it a void if it contains the ecosystems and consciousness(ess? (Gut biome and the various microscopic skin mites, etc)) of a human body?
That's a fuck ton of biology, physics, chemistry, philosophy, etc for a space where nothing is supposed to be. Does time also exist there? Because if it didn't you couldn't be aware of your self in there, so that would be a problem solved.
If time does exist in this void though, by entering the void you will have changed its nature, it will stop being a void and it starts just being more of you. ...And if you still can't feel anything, I think this is called depression.
let’s go with entropy exists as we know it, gravity is welcoming to a human body but there is no ground. no up or down. the arrow of time is what we know it as. it’s just an endless void where any action you take doesn’t affect your environment and the environment doesn’t affect you. lol not depression, thinking in terms of horror
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Becoming a quadriplegic or suffering from "locked in" syndrome, where I can no longer move anything myself, cannot feed myself or use the toilet, etc, just laying there, 100% dependent on other people for everything. I'd rather be dead, thanks.
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I don't know if this is a question that can be answered, and certainly not a question I have an answer to (or at least not a satisfactory one besides "everything comes from the Creator", like, duh, ofc). I can tell you, from personal experience, that consciousness is not the mind, which is shaped by experience and ideology, but is behind it. A consciousness watching a mind watching a body, that's the human experience. Recent studies (with some experimental backing!) talk about 'tubules' in the structure of the neurons and quantum physics which, to me, sound promising, if you're interested (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reduction). And that's all the insight I can provide on the matter, sorry!
Sorry, probably was just dumping on you but its a thought that I wanted to write down. Seize the moment, as they say.
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unit 731 (seriously, genuinely, don't look it up if you're unfamiliar, it's beyond nightmare fuel the kinds of torture imperial japan committed and got away with)
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unit 731 (seriously, genuinely, don't look it up if you're unfamiliar, it's beyond nightmare fuel the kinds of torture imperial japan committed and got away with)
Well that was an interesting wiki read.
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let’s go with entropy exists as we know it, gravity is welcoming to a human body but there is no ground. no up or down. the arrow of time is what we know it as. it’s just an endless void where any action you take doesn’t affect your environment and the environment doesn’t affect you. lol not depression, thinking in terms of horror
You'd have about 3 days of quiet contemplation before the dehydration will kill you.
Considering how horrifying the thought of a void is for you, at least you won't be stuck in there for very long.
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Sorry, probably was just dumping on you but its a thought that I wanted to write down. Seize the moment, as they say.
No need to apologise! It's good to ask questions, maybe next time someone more capable will answer.
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No need to apologise! It's good to ask questions, maybe next time someone more capable will answer.
I did appreciate your link!
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You'd have about 3 days of quiet contemplation before the dehydration will kill you.
Considering how horrifying the thought of a void is for you, at least you won't be stuck in there for very long.
horrifying then probably boring few days
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Being given an anesthetic that should put you out for an operation but only immobilizes you and you remain cognizant thru out the operation feeling everything being done.
Kinda happened to me in middle school when I broke my arm and they gave me anesthetics to knock me out so they could re-set my ulna and radius but half way thru i wake up to my arm in 5 Chinese finger trap-like device to hold my arm up and a strap across my bicep with weights on it weighing my arm down and 2 doctor's trying to push my bones back in line.
I woke up getting my wisdom teeth out. They were at the “hammer and chisel to break them down into chunks” part. I could see, I could smell, and I could feel the thud, thud, thud, and the little bits of tooth land on my tongue. They’re was NO pain whatsoever, but it was an extremely freaky experience.
I thought I had dreamt it before realizing 1. you don’t dream on anesthesia and 2. They showed me my chiseled out teeth
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Rape and murder always top this kind of conversation. The other day i was thinking about japanese occupation and man, that shit must've been scariest shit for all the victim involved.
I just finished a re-listen of Dan Carlin’s “Supernova in the East, which is like 30 hours covering everything Japan did during the great wars. It was insanity.
