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  • C [email protected]

    Who cares? I use mine only as a (huge) screen for my laptop (soon to be replaced by a steam deck)

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    No idea why this is getting down voted, this is the only real option for such TVs.

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      Block it by MAC address at the router. That's the only way to know for sure.

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      New TVs will connect to other smart TVs that have been connected to the Internet.

      You straight up have to pull their chips now if you really want to be sure.

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      • einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

        No idea why this is getting down voted, this is the only real option for such TVs.

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        Probably because you should care about the fuckton of TVs being sold and in circulation with software that is just some of the worst privacy violations bundled together in a case behind a big LCD/OLED panel. There is no option to avoid it and probably no option to install something else on the hardware you bought and therefor should be yours to do whatever you want to with it. I even read that some connect to open wifi access points without passwords to reach the internet.

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          New TVs will connect to other smart TVs that have been connected to the Internet.

          You straight up have to pull their chips now if you really want to be sure.

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          This is the first I've heard of such a thing. Like TVs connecting to one another through Wifi Direct or BTLE and tethering their internet connection? Can you link to anything discussing this?

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            New TVs will connect to other smart TVs that have been connected to the Internet.

            You straight up have to pull their chips now if you really want to be sure.

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            ? If you're going to block 1 Smart TV from the Internet. Why wouldn't you do it to all the TVs on your LAN?

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              I live in fear that someone in my house will connect the tv to the WiFi and an update will just absolutely fuck it up.

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              • catzoomies@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                It's Pi Hole. Everything's computer.

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                I have a smart TV. It is connected to two things. The wall socket for power and HDMI #2 for my PC.

                Edit: Also I have a PFSense router, I use PFBlockNG to also block the IPs behind the blocked DNS entries. My phone is GrapheneOS and all of my computers are GNU Linux. Any blocked incidents I get are usually from websites. If I surf the web a lot in a month, I maybe get 200 blocked incidents. If my normie friends stay over with, for example, a Windows PC and an iPhone, I get 2000 per day. It's wild what's going on with these devices.

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                • einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

                  At this point just use the TV as screen for a Raspberry and be done with it.
                  Pi hole is good but it cant catch everything, and i would expect smart tv's by now try to smuggle out data on things that can get around the pihole.
                  Every Smart TV has to be assumed a compromised device, with advanced data exfiltration options.

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                  They also take fingerprints of what your watching every few frames and get it out on corpo shadow mesh nets

                  Anybody got an in to those corpo mesh nets BTW?

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                    I live in fear that someone in my house will connect the tv to the WiFi and an update will just absolutely fuck it up.

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                    Welp, time to set up a MAC address whitelist.

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                    • A [email protected]

                      Block it by MAC address at the router. That's the only way to know for sure.

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                      Randomized MAC addresses: Bonjour

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                        Randomized MAC addresses: Bonjour

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                        I thought government regulation would prevent that? I thought the whole point of a Mac address was a unique id for hardware

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                          They also take fingerprints of what your watching every few frames and get it out on corpo shadow mesh nets

                          Anybody got an in to those corpo mesh nets BTW?

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                          Thankfully not in Europe.

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                            ? If you're going to block 1 Smart TV from the Internet. Why wouldn't you do it to all the TVs on your LAN?

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                            Because the range could include things like the apartment, condo, or even house next door.

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                              ? If you're going to block 1 Smart TV from the Internet. Why wouldn't you do it to all the TVs on your LAN?

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                              In theory, as every smart TV might act as an access point, it'd be sufficient to be in the range of your neighbors smart TV.

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                                It's Pi Hole. Everything's computer.

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                                I'm waiting for these smart devices to come with their own mobile modems.

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                                  I thought government regulation would prevent that? I thought the whole point of a Mac address was a unique id for hardware

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                                  Unique IDs are a privacy concern. Best you can tell by randomized MAC addresses is who the manufacturer of the device is and the type of device if you're lucky (like when the manufacturer's departments are internally split into separate companies), but that's not guaranteed.

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                                  • rudyharrelson@lemmy.radioR [email protected]

                                    This is the first I've heard of such a thing. Like TVs connecting to one another through Wifi Direct or BTLE and tethering their internet connection? Can you link to anything discussing this?

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                                    Hmm, I recall reading a couple articles about it a year or so ago but nothing is coming up in searches.

                                    I'm not sure if that means it was vaporware, misinformation, or coming soon to a Google TV near you. Anyone that's more familiar with network capabilities is free to correct me, but as far as I'm aware if your TV even has Bluetooth it's already capable of doing this at some level.

                                    Either way you'll catch a smart appliance in my house when I'm dead.

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                                      They also take fingerprints of what your watching every few frames and get it out on corpo shadow mesh nets

                                      Anybody got an in to those corpo mesh nets BTW?

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                                      Why does it feel like I fell into some Shadowrun Decker forum?!

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                                      • Z [email protected]

                                        I have a smart TV. It is connected to two things. The wall socket for power and HDMI #2 for my PC.

                                        Edit: Also I have a PFSense router, I use PFBlockNG to also block the IPs behind the blocked DNS entries. My phone is GrapheneOS and all of my computers are GNU Linux. Any blocked incidents I get are usually from websites. If I surf the web a lot in a month, I maybe get 200 blocked incidents. If my normie friends stay over with, for example, a Windows PC and an iPhone, I get 2000 per day. It's wild what's going on with these devices.

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                                        This the way.

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                                        • passepartout@feddit.orgP [email protected]

                                          Probably because you should care about the fuckton of TVs being sold and in circulation with software that is just some of the worst privacy violations bundled together in a case behind a big LCD/OLED panel. There is no option to avoid it and probably no option to install something else on the hardware you bought and therefor should be yours to do whatever you want to with it. I even read that some connect to open wifi access points without passwords to reach the internet.

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                                          Probably because you should care about the fuckton of TVs being sold and in circulation with software that is just some of the worst privacy violations bundled together in a case behind a big LCD/OLED panel.

                                          But that's what I mean. I don't use my TV as a smart TV, it's plugged into a device where I can control the privacy settings via HDMI. No wifi, no apps being used, no connection to the outside world. That's why I don't care about DNS shenanigans with the TV, because I do them more comfortably on another device.

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