The internet kind of sucks right now
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The forum I call home tolerates a lot of hate speech.
I think I'm out, but it's less about the AI scraping and more about moderation.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I don't even oppose hate speech at this point as long as its directed towards people who believe in the project 2025 agenda instead of the other way around (which it almost exclusively always is)
we need a kiwi farms but for targeting delusional conservatives. The enemy got to where they are today partly due to mass internet trolling and letting them trample the internet unopposed leaves weak-minded normies to adopt and fight for their views. "being nice" about it ain't getting anybody anywhere and its time for these pieces of shit to actually experience bullying for themselves.Too bad no such communities exist on the internet.
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What stops any domain host from selling us out tomorrow? Why single out cloudflare?
IDK what you mean by "domain host" but the thing about cloudflare ('s most prominent service) is that it's essentially a voluntary MITM between you and your clients. They see ALL traffic going between your server and your clients. This is not normal. Normally traffic between server and client is encrypted with HTTPS. By using cloudflare's proxy your are adding a backdoor to that encryption. Your registrar cannot normally see this traffic. Your certificate authority cannot normally see this traffic without issuing a malicious cert. But cloudflare can. And, if they wanted to, they could even inject malware to deanonymize users, spy on journalists, steal data, etc. As a matter of fact, they already do, but instead of calling it "malware" they call it "analytics", so it's okay
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What if we made it so that the text that any use posts in the forum website has a bunch of nonsense letters mixed in between the letters they posted, but they're all set to a REALLY small font or even taking no space thanks to those special characters, and colored in such a way to make them disappear into the background? That way when a person reads it makes sense but when a scraper gets it it'll just be a jumbled useless mess!
People who use screen readers (like blind people) would be screwed. I like where your head is at, though!
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People who use screen readers (like blind people) would be screwed. I like where your head is at, though!
Built-in screen reader with a page designed for those who are hard of sight (is that the name?) with stuff like tab navigation that is actually useful, unlike most websites today! But yeah this "solution" is very hard to implement because it has a lot of things it'll cause issues to that will need individual fixes for, thanks AI and scrapers!! Making the internet a hellhole sure is great!
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Am I the only person who doesn't care if people 'scrape' my 'knowledge?'
That's the whole point of putting something online. So anyone can look at it. I'm not about to get petty about who has access and who doesn't.
No, you are not.
I also give 0 fucks about intellectual property.People with their modern conveniences have it so well, they just make shit up to be upset about.
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A lot of the forums I'm seeing talked about where more technical or objective kinds. Like in a car forum there'd be repair manuals or parts lists, fountain pen forums would have loads of images comparing inks side by side for different shades and hues. Those are the sorts of knowledge centers being discussed and reminisced about a lot here.
Yeah, survivorship bias, we only remember the good ones, but there were plenty of shitpools out there.
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fucking everything kind of sucks right now.
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Because UI/UX beats any abstract things like privacy & data ownership.
I have never understood why people moved stuff to the closed Discord server system…
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Public and copyrighted are not mutually exclusive.
wrote last edited by [email protected]also “public for actual people who support my forum business model” is not the same as “public for AI scrapers who detract from my business model.”
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What if we made it so that the text that any use posts in the forum website has a bunch of nonsense letters mixed in between the letters they posted, but they're all set to a REALLY small font or even taking no space thanks to those special characters, and colored in such a way to make them disappear into the background? That way when a person reads it makes sense but when a scraper gets it it'll just be a jumbled useless mess!
Sounds like a very elegant way to fuck over screenreader users
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also “public for actual people who support my forum business model” is not the same as “public for AI scrapers who detract from my business model.”
Public is public, tho.
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What about: Explore the neitherworld of gopher, IRC and the (telnet-)BBS community and be fine?
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Sounds like a very elegant way to fuck over screenreader users
Someone else pointed out the same flaw, I replied with this, but this is all just trying to block the sun with a sieve and just theorizing for the sake of theorizing as a fun thing, if something good comes out of it nice bonus tbh
Built-in screen reader with a page designed for those who are hard of sight (is that the name?) with stuff like tab navigation that is actually useful, unlike most websites today! But yeah this "solution" is very hard to implement because it has a lot of things it'll cause issues to that will need individual fixes for, thanks AI and scrapers!! Making the internet a hellhole sure is great!
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I don't even oppose hate speech at this point as long as its directed towards people who believe in the project 2025 agenda instead of the other way around (which it almost exclusively always is)
we need a kiwi farms but for targeting delusional conservatives. The enemy got to where they are today partly due to mass internet trolling and letting them trample the internet unopposed leaves weak-minded normies to adopt and fight for their views. "being nice" about it ain't getting anybody anywhere and its time for these pieces of shit to actually experience bullying for themselves.Too bad no such communities exist on the internet.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Hating someone for their political views is different than hating them for their gender, sexuality, or ethnic background.
And I think wanting to punch Nazis is pretty normalized on the lemmy verse.
But I hear you, liberals are far to complacent with the far right. But they serve the same master (the dollar). So it's not surprising.
And I thought this was a different thread. Was talking about hate crimes in another comment section a few days ago.
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You forgot about influencers who will read your knowledge and present as theirs in their videos.
Still not as bad as AI scraping. I'd rather have a Somerton-style person plagiarize me, than a bot scrape whatever stuff I made for the internet.
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Even if Discord wasn't doing it, public Discord guilds are known to be scraped by a number of different bots. Previously, it was for spies, cops, and private investigators who wanted to search for messages by username. If those bots could do it before, AI bots will be doing it aggressively today.
hilariously there's one bot that you add specifically so that stuff on your discord community isn't lost to time, it scrapes the messages and mirrors it to a forum-like website that can show up in search engines.
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The answer is not discord in every situation.
