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I'm new to using Ruby and this tickled me pink

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  • R [email protected]

    365.25, surely

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    Sure, if you want things at midday instead of midnight.

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    • diplomjodler3@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

      The Python won't give an accurate date here because it doesn't take into account leap years.

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      Does the Ruby version do that though?

      I haven't got it installed to check, but seeing constants like SECONDS_PER_YEAR in the documentation makes me think it's just as bad if not worse.

      https://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActiveSupport/Duration.html

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      • S [email protected]

        I just started a new php gig

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        I work with Delphi.

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        • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]
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          Using ruby felt weird, it felt like it shouldn't work but it does.

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          • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

            didn't we gain or lose 0.00000001ish of a day recently? Like from tonga exploding or antarctica melting or something i can't remember.

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            That kind of thing happens surprisingly often.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second

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            • _ [email protected]

              Ok, everyone who's ever had to use datetime hates it, but not because it's insufficient, but because international date/time is such a nightmare that the library must be complicated enough to support all the edge cases I'm convinced that library has a function for traveling trough time.

              For years I've wrapped datetime with custom functions that do exactly and only what I want to mitigate its all-plumbing-zero-porcelain approach to the problem.

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              Obligatory Tom Scott video

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              • V [email protected]

                I like Fish Shell better than python, not gonna lie. Easier to read and write. Especially if you already live in the terminal.

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                Python is more system agnostic though.

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                • R [email protected]

                  timedelta marks time in days, seconds, and microseconds. It doesn't take leap years into account because the concept of years is irrelevant to timedelta. If you need to account for leap years, you need a different API.

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                  #54

                  You can subtract two dates and get the exact time difference.

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                    I miss Ruby DSLs so much. Python is bland. It's on purpose, I know and even appreciate it.

                    Yet I feel like Ruby syntax magic compared to Python blandness is like comparing a steaming plate of beautiful aromatic curry to plain rice.

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                    • A [email protected]

                      Python is more system agnostic though.

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                      Lucky for me I control all the machines I write scripts for. So far...

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                      • E [email protected]

                        LLM is saying this is a feature of Rails and not particularly Ruby.

                        I was surprised Python didn’t have a years parameter but learned about

                        relativedelta(years=10)

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                        #57

                        LLM is saying...

                        Stop. Nothing at all past those three words is worth a damn.

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                        • noxypaws@pawb.socialN [email protected]

                          LLM is saying...

                          Stop. Nothing at all past those three words is worth a damn.

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                          What is the purpose of this comment.

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                          • R [email protected]

                            Obligatory Tom Scott video

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                            This is exactly why I love PowerShell.

                            Need the [DateTime] object from 10 years ago? No biggie, just chuck (Get-Date).AddYears(-10) down your console.

                            Need it in a specific timezone? That one's trickier, but since PowerShell can do .Net, run this:

                            $TargetDateTime = (Get-Date).AddYears(-10)
                            $TargetTimeZone = "India Standard Time"
                            $tz = [TimeZoneInfo]::FindSystemTimeZoneById($TargetTimeZone)
                            $utcOffset = $tz.GetUtcOffset($TargetDateTime)
                            [DateTimeOffset]::new($TargetDateTime.Ticks, $utcOffset)
                            

                            And you get a DateTimeOffset object, which is this beauty:

                            DateTime           : 25/08/2015 23:15:14
                            UtcDateTime        : 25/08/2015 17:45:14
                            LocalDateTime      : 25/08/2015 19:45:14
                            Date               : 25/08/2015 00:00:00
                            Day                : 25
                            DayOfWeek          : Tuesday
                            DayOfYear          : 237
                            Hour               : 23
                            Millisecond        : 421
                            Microsecond        : 428
                            Nanosecond         : 600
                            Minute             : 15
                            Month              : 8
                            Offset             : 05:30:00
                            TotalOffsetMinutes : 330
                            Second             : 14
                            Ticks              : 635761413144214286
                            UtcTicks           : 635761215144214286
                            TimeOfDay          : 23:15:14.4214286
                            Year               : 2015
                            

                            DateTime is the time in your target timezone, UtcDateTime is, well, the UTC time, and LocalDateTime is the time on host you ran the commands on.

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                            • E [email protected]

                              What is the purpose of this comment.

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                              You didn't seem to be ashamed of admitting to asking an LLM a question as if it was helpful, wise, or respectable for you to have done. You should be.

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                              • noxypaws@pawb.socialN [email protected]

                                You didn't seem to be ashamed of admitting to asking an LLM a question as if it was helpful, wise, or respectable for you to have done. You should be.

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                                This is a poor perspective to have on things towards a stranger on the internet. I hope you’re just having a bad day and that things get better.

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                                • M [email protected]

                                  People still use ruby?

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                                  You probably use it everyday and didn't know it https://github.blog/engineering/architecture-optimization/building-github-with-ruby-and-rails/

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                                    There's two of these threads?! Well ok here's the same comment.

                                    10.years.ago
                                    On.a.cold.dark.night
                                    There.was.someone.killed
                                    'Neath.the.town.hall.lights
                                    There.were.few.at.the.scene
                                    Though.they.all.agreed
                                    That.the.slayer.who.ran
                                    Looked.a.lot.like.me
                                    
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                                    • supervisor194@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                      ahahaha oh come on, the comment was clearly a joke. To be honest, I'd be far more interested in gothly serious sam on the left.

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                                      Can't see the comment but judging by the uname you're right, that's Frank Reynolds' fake name from It's Always Sunny, Mantis Toboggan M.D. lmao. I'd wager 95% of what that person says is at least intended to be a joke/satirical/etc.

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                                      • W [email protected]

                                        The comparison is somewhat awkward, because the rails example presumably produces a date, while the python one is referring to an interval of time.
                                        Just from the meme it's not obvious which was the actual intended use, so labeling either as inaccurate requires us to make assumptions.

                                        Personally, the concept of "10 years ago" is a bit nebulous to me. If today is February 29th, is ten years ago March 1st? Doesn't seem right. Or particularly useful.

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                                        Ruby should add 10.years.ago.today

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                                        • R [email protected]

                                          timedelta marks time in days, seconds, and microseconds. It doesn't take leap years into account because the concept of years is irrelevant to timedelta. If you need to account for leap years, you need a different API.

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                                          365.25*10 would at least get you closer.

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