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Is the number of Lemmy users increasing?

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  • P [email protected]

    The graphs there for posts and comments are for count of posts on lemmy directly, total, not per month. The posts/month seems stagnant, although its hard to tell as the data shown there is burried by a couple of bot instances that completely hide the overall trend.

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    Ah, it says "by month", not "per month". Well, shit, that's not good news then.

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    • D [email protected]

      In recent weeks, I have posted an absolutely staggering amount of content on Lemmy.

      My goal is simply to support the platform. I hate huge corporations.

      Now I'm taking a break. I won't post anything or I'll post very little (I still feel a little guilty!! Who will post new content 😢?)

      But I need to focus on improving my own life and relax.

      However... I'm just curious.

      Is the number of Lemmy users actually increasing, decreasing, or staying the same? Is that data even available?

      Edit: I will still post stuff. I'll just post a lot less!

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      Nobody is recording long-term stats yet AFAIK, so you have to find a workaround. It seems the rest of Lemmy is growing relative to Hexbear, at least.

      Edit: Nevermind, there are sites being linked here. It looks like by MAU it's more or less holding steady. Which maybe means Hexbear is dying from toxicity and infighting?

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      • A [email protected]

        Its been at a pretty consistent 50k which means we retained 25% of the users from our peak. Its 37.5k at the moment with 1.8k on piefed. There is another 18k users once NodeBB federations integrates.

        Its a decent little community, enough to be self sufficient and enough for new users to feel like they arent joining a ghost town.

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        Small enough to see the same few people on multiple threads and posts, large enough for a sense of activeness

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        • T [email protected]

          It's not. But mods generally just ban/threaten you if you post anything they disagree with. just like reddit. they have an agenda and if you are not on board with it 100% you are to be purged.

          for example i've been banned from multiple lemmy communities because I dared to disagreed with the 'autism/non NT make you superior' narrative quite a few communities here were pushing. or questioning the 'perfection' of Linux...

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          Yeah, you did a bit more than that, going by your mod history.

          Anyway, it's true that mods tend to like power tripping, because it's about the only way to get something positive out of the boring and unpleasant work of an unpaid internet moderator.

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          • asudox@lemmy.asudox.devA [email protected]

            No, the MAU (which is what I assume you meant) seems to be going down very slowly. Though it probably will start going up once again someday. Possibly when the new digg is released to the public or when Reddit pulls another shit that not even the current Redditors will be able to tolerate.

            I personally don't have a problem with the current state. I like it here. I recognize lots of people every day comment and post. It feels cozy.

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            Have you been keeping a record?

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            • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

              https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats

              Currently trending down. And it's all your fault for taking a break. 😔

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              Hmm. The monthly post count keeps going up, though. Assuming it is monthly and not total, which seems likely from the occasional decreases.

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              • M [email protected]

                wow piefed is kinda taking off 🙂 Thats awesome.

                Its not like we cant all get what we want. Some will want lemmy, some will want piefed, some will want mastodon/kbin/mbin/etc...etc... Posts/comments show up in all. Its nice to have options.

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                Yeah, but look at the scale involved. That being said, I do expect it to stick around and become a major part of the ecosystem.

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                • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                  https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats

                  Currently trending down. And it's all your fault for taking a break. 😔

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                  Honestly, I'm not complaining about it going from 2 mil at its peak (2023!) to 1.25 mil now. That's way more people than I thought!

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                  • openstars@discuss.onlineO [email protected]

                    PieFed, like Mbin, was written from the ground up, and in a totally different language than Lemmy.

                    But it interoperates with Lemmy, so yeah it's very similar. Except the LARGE list of features that PieFed has that Lemmy lacks, and a handful of features that Lemmy still does better on.

                    Moreover, Lemmy will likely not ever catch up to PieFed. One reason being that certain features are incompatible with the authoritarian mindset - e.g. when a moderator removes your content, why should you as the poster be notified of that fact?

                    But also, PieFed is written in Python that is a heck of a lot easier to code in than Rust, so the fact that PieFed not only caught up to Lemmy but has already surpassed it in SO MANY ways is a strong indicator of its future success.

                    But aside from the tankies building in tankie philosophy right into the core of the Lemmy software, it depends on whether someone wants those additional features or not. Like polls, flairs (both user and post), categories of communities, which btw are user customizable and shareable, combining all comments across all cross-posts (helping to reverse the fragmentation effect inherent in federated platforms), and so much more.

                    I bet that if you tried out PieFed for a day, you'd fall in love with it. You can also do entirely different workflows with it, like trigger notifications to be sent to you that really helps you to stay on top of posts from communities that are very low-volume (and so have trouble making it into your Subscribed feed, like poetry rather than politics or worshipping Arch Linux), but those are likely to take more than a day to figure out - there's definitely a learning curve. Also note that ymmv with regard to the different apps not (yet!) fully utilizing all the features offered by the PieFed back-end.

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                    Moreover, Lemmy will likely not ever catch up to PieFed. One reason being that certain features are incompatible with the authoritarian mindset - e.g. when a moderator removes your content, why should you as the poster be notified of that fact?

                    Hey, to be fair it's all public in the modlog. They have weird geopolitical ideas, but I don't see a lot of ways it's influenced the design of the platform.

                    combining all comments across all cross-posts

                    Okay, that does sound dope. How is it implemented? Does it only work if the commenter is on PieFed?

                    Ditto for more priority going to niche communities. Way too often those posts just slip past in the waterfall of AskLemmy and Tech-related comment.

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                    • P [email protected]

                      How can one obtain these numbers? Is there like a statistics website?

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                      fedidb.com is what I used. The UI used to be better its kinda ass now.

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                      • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                        Reddit is anything but far left. Only a conservative would think that

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                        What's with all the "progressives" trying to convince everyone that reddit isn't a far left echo chamber these days? Is it to try and change the well-deserved reputation of being a highly censored leftist shithole so people will take it seriously?

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                        • lumidaub@feddit.orgL [email protected]

                          That email comparison annoys the fuck out of me. How is any of this like email?

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                          Email and Lemmy are both digital communication systems where people use personal computers connected to the internet to socialize across the world. To you, they are completely different. To my parents and most of my clients (boomers), they are one and the same. Is the Nintendo Switch the same as the Steam Deck? Hell no, I don't even game, but I can rattle off a dozen differences between the two platforms. Yet, to those who are technologically illiterate (which is most Americans), they are one and the same. But I can understand your frustration, I had a Sega Genesis growing up, and my parents always called it a Nintendo, to which I would autistically shout "Moooom, it's a Seg-AH GEN-esis, it's totally different!"

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                            Email and Lemmy are both digital communication systems where people use personal computers connected to the internet to socialize across the world. To you, they are completely different. To my parents and most of my clients (boomers), they are one and the same. Is the Nintendo Switch the same as the Steam Deck? Hell no, I don't even game, but I can rattle off a dozen differences between the two platforms. Yet, to those who are technologically illiterate (which is most Americans), they are one and the same. But I can understand your frustration, I had a Sega Genesis growing up, and my parents always called it a Nintendo, to which I would autistically shout "Moooom, it's a Seg-AH GEN-esis, it's totally different!"

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                            Very relatable, of course, and triggering a bunch of that type of memory, thanks for that. But bizarrely, it's the opposite. The first thing I read about the Fediverse is how if I can understand email, I can understand the Fediverse. This was people who are way more geeky (and presumably autistic) than I am. I've seen that comparison several times since then and I still struggle to understand what the fuck they meant by that, other than "your username is [email protected] which looks like an email address" which is so fucking surface level it makes my head spin and has fuck-all to do with how you use the various platforms.

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                            • thekingoflorda@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                              Wow, calm down. It was just a question. The core difference between Reddit and lemmy is in my mind like the core difference between something like whatsapp and email.

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                              Wasn't directed at you personally, sorry. I've seen that comparison before and it makes me doubt my sanity.

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                              • paraphrand@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                                I answered your question about the similarities man. Settle down. You asked any and I gave you it. You didn’t ask for how it’s exactly like email.

                                Also, I think tech nerds tend to look down on others in this topic. “It’s too difficult, it’s too much to learn.” —- and thus it won’t be profitable? What are we worried about?

                                Activity pub and related networks didn’t just shrivel up and die right away due to this problem. I’m arguing with a stranger on the internet via a newer activity pub platform, in fact.

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                                You're right about tech nerds - I'm pretty sure most are borderline autistic, with a common trait of being far too literal in casual conversation. I (on the spectrum) spent a lot of time and effort conditioning myself to be more chill with neuro-norms. And it worked! I don't get bent out of shape anymore discussing techy things with non-techy people, not do I correct them, because they are going to forget the technical details the second I turn away, but they will definitely remember (and dislike) the nerd who starting arguing over some trivial detail.

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                                • lumidaub@feddit.orgL [email protected]

                                  Very relatable, of course, and triggering a bunch of that type of memory, thanks for that. But bizarrely, it's the opposite. The first thing I read about the Fediverse is how if I can understand email, I can understand the Fediverse. This was people who are way more geeky (and presumably autistic) than I am. I've seen that comparison several times since then and I still struggle to understand what the fuck they meant by that, other than "your username is [email protected] which looks like an email address" which is so fucking surface level it makes my head spin and has fuck-all to do with how you use the various platforms.

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                                  I think you and I are in that sweet sweet band of The Spectrum™ where we have heightened senses, intelligence, thirst for knowledge, ability to see things from unique perspectives, but without all the autistic screeching 😁

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                                    What's with all the "progressives" trying to convince everyone that reddit isn't a far left echo chamber these days? Is it to try and change the well-deserved reputation of being a highly censored leftist shithole so people will take it seriously?

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                                    You're a conservative.

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                                      I think you and I are in that sweet sweet band of The Spectrum™ where we have heightened senses, intelligence, thirst for knowledge, ability to see things from unique perspectives, but without all the autistic screeching 😁

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                                      I couldn't possibly disagree with that, for obvious reasons. (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)

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                                      • lena@gregtech.euL [email protected]

                                        Damn! How inefficient 🤪 but that explains a lot

                                        Although I'm not a big fan of python, or dynamically typed languages in general, I think its DX is a lot better than stuff like C. Unless you really enjoy leaking 40GB of ram per second.

                                        Python dev tend to vibe code

                                        What? Maybe the percentage of vibe coders among python users is higher, but that's irrelevant. Just hire the real developers...

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                                        Yeah, I think vibe coders being more common in Python is more a product of Python being pushed to more people, particularly new developers

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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          In recent weeks, I have posted an absolutely staggering amount of content on Lemmy.

                                          My goal is simply to support the platform. I hate huge corporations.

                                          Now I'm taking a break. I won't post anything or I'll post very little (I still feel a little guilty!! Who will post new content 😢?)

                                          But I need to focus on improving my own life and relax.

                                          However... I'm just curious.

                                          Is the number of Lemmy users actually increasing, decreasing, or staying the same? Is that data even available?

                                          Edit: I will still post stuff. I'll just post a lot less!

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                                          not really, since the great purges in the spring thats where we had a huge boost, the shadowbans and sitewide ban seemed to have died down for now, although the SB are increasing in the background, we might see another increase if reddit does another major purge. although instances dying ive seen less content overall(especially with ee gone)

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