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  • B [email protected]

    Funny how we vilify those who are renting it out, but not those that are renting. Its the scalper argument all over again. Blaming the seller, but not the buyer who creates the market. If no one rents, then no one is going to buy to set up an airbnb.

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    What about induced demand?

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    • Z [email protected]

      Pardon the confusion. This is Lemmy, anarchism is a utopistic solution where everyone sings kumbaya and gets along, not an apocalyptic hellscape where the people with the most guns amass all power. Fortunately, there has never been a societal experiment to determine what anarchy really is, so no one has to be proven wrong.

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      not an apocalyptic hellscape where the people with the most guns amass all power

      Hahaha yeah that's totally not what capitalism is at all, right guys? ...right?

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      • B [email protected]

        Funny how we vilify those who are renting it out, but not those that are renting. Its the scalper argument all over again. Blaming the seller, but not the buyer who creates the market. If no one rents, then no one is going to buy to set up an airbnb.

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        And this is why governemental regulation is the only way and why capitalism has its problems: Capitalists blaming the consumenr for the existing market. People will use the offer the capitalists create for them if it is convenient for them and they draw an advantage from it. Of course you can always blame the consumer, and protect the guy who out of pure compassion creates a market that destroys our world even faster. But hey, at least someone profitet from it in the meanwhile.

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        • speculater@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

          Cute. Who protects the property? Mutual Aid sounds nice on paper. The truth of human nature is that the strong will take anything you work to build.

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          yeah, we don't want the strong taking everything you build. Just bend over and let the rich do it instead, because that's better for some reason

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            Funny how we vilify those who are renting it out, but not those that are renting. Its the scalper argument all over again. Blaming the seller, but not the buyer who creates the market. If no one rents, then no one is going to buy to set up an airbnb.

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            I'd agree with you a lot more if AirBnB wasn't a lot cheaper than any hotel or other travel accommodation. A town that relies on tourism might be different, but in the USA I save about $100 and get a more private place to stay.

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              Air bnbs are a cancer. You should be ashamed of yourself if your buying property then renting it out. With what they charge they are able to pay tge mortgage in 3 nights

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              Don't hate the player, hate the game.

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                It never ceases to amaze me how people get get so brainwashed on xenophobia and hating tourists when its their government at fault.

                Edit: Well looks like 18 lemmy users didn't read the news. Locals in barcelonia were literally harassing tourists with water-guns, instead of actually protesting against their government.

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                • salty_chief@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  I live in Florida and we had an influx of people. Mainly due to Florida not shutting down during Covid. I traveled to Puerto Rico during that time and they were shut down. Most of the Bahamas Islands were shutdown as well.

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                  My wife and went on our honeymoon in 2022 to Puerto Rico, and it was honestly pretty lax. We were on the west side in and around Rincon.

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                    Don't hate the player, hate the game.

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                    That what the billionaire says when I tell them how bad their private jets and yachts are for the environment.

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                    • chewables@piefed.socialC [email protected]

                      not an apocalyptic hellscape where the people with the most guns amass all power

                      Hahaha yeah that's totally not what capitalism is at all, right guys? ...right?

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                      Right, but they didn't talk about capitalism.

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                        Don't hate the player, hate the game.

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                        This is the bullshit that allows this kind of game. Hate the player, hate the game, and hate the observer with a dumb fuck outlook.

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                        • goldmage263@sh.itjust.worksG [email protected]

                          I'd agree with you a lot more if AirBnB wasn't a lot cheaper than any hotel or other travel accommodation. A town that relies on tourism might be different, but in the USA I save about $100 and get a more private place to stay.

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                          Be better.

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                          • R [email protected]

                            Just go on realtor.ca and look for 0 bedroom 1 bath units

                            20k down will get you into a <400k condo that will be like 2/3 the cost of what rent would be

                            However I would be concerned it's a hard sell in 5 years when you want to upgrade. I know a lady who lives happily in 400sqft but I couldn't.

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                            >0 bedroom 1 bath

                            the fuck

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                            • fenrasulfr@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                              From what I heard from my brother, he lives in Barcelona, they are banning bnbs and short term rentals. In order to combat this problem.

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                              That's great for them. But I live in the capitalist nightmare that is the US. I'm one generation removed from being able to go back to Norway or Sweden. It's like being imprisoned in a hellscape at birth.

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                                This is the bullshit that allows this kind of game. Hate the player, hate the game, and hate the observer with a dumb fuck outlook.

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                                False. I try my best to win at whatever ruleset is in front of me. Its human nature and game theory.

                                The game of capitalism is absolute horseshit. You should hate it. Work to tear it down if you're up for it.

                                I took the cowardly - if you can't beat them join them - approach.

                                I'll bet my life will be better than yours given our choices though. So who's right?

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  That what the billionaire says when I tell them how bad their private jets and yachts are for the environment.

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                                  Not quite. There's no game there. That's just excess.

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                                    Be better.

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                                    That's the struggle every day, Pooptart. Every day; and in a system that doesn't want me to.

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                                      False. I try my best to win at whatever ruleset is in front of me. Its human nature and game theory.

                                      The game of capitalism is absolute horseshit. You should hate it. Work to tear it down if you're up for it.

                                      I took the cowardly - if you can't beat them join them - approach.

                                      I'll bet my life will be better than yours given our choices though. So who's right?

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                                      That's a pretty short term view you have there. Good luck.

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                                      • C [email protected]

                                        False. I try my best to win at whatever ruleset is in front of me. Its human nature and game theory.

                                        The game of capitalism is absolute horseshit. You should hate it. Work to tear it down if you're up for it.

                                        I took the cowardly - if you can't beat them join them - approach.

                                        I'll bet my life will be better than yours given our choices though. So who's right?

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                                        Sorry, but I couldn't live with myself if I made my outcome better by hurting others.

                                        And I'm a combat vet. I've learned through my mistakes what I'm willing to live with on my conscience. It's guided who I've become since then.

                                        If you're willing to give up your morals, ethics and self-consciousness for money, then I'd like to get in an octagon to teach you the difference between me and you.

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                                        • goldmage263@sh.itjust.worksG [email protected]

                                          That's the struggle every day, Pooptart. Every day; and in a system that doesn't want me to.

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                                          Then who are you? Do you even know who you are as a person if you don't have the ethics to make a stand? Do you just meh all over your morals? Just give up on everything you believe? Or is it that you don't have morals, and you're just making excuses?

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