I know nothing about computers but this does not add up
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I remember when you could’ve made this meme about PNGs.
Back when Windows 3.1 only supported BMP and maybe JPG
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It already happened years ago. It's supported and widely used. Why do people keep posting this misinformational meme?
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What are the odds I happen to be watching Mean Girls on Pluto when I scroll across this meme.
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what would they be?
This is more or less everything I know about how image formats work.
okay. it is a lot simplified, but mostly correct. ideally image format for drawn out stuff and other flat animated stuff is svg (vector graphics - ie - infinitely scalable yet crisp), but png is usually used because it is defacto lossless standrad. lossless here roughly translates to - sensor produced a matrix of colors - lossless photo preserves all data. lossy discards some data. For irl stuff, usually lossless is overkill for end user, hence you see jpegs (defacto lossy standrad)
jxl can so both. others can do that as well. jpegs can be lossless, but that is usually not the standard we use. you can store lossy data in pngs, but the loss is not created by png. jxl behaves by default like lossless (like png), but due to newer algorithms, size when lossless is closer to jpeg. if you prepare loss jxl - it can be close to half size of jpegs.
there are other benifits to jxl (extreme future proofing (extremely high bit depth, and pixel size limit, large amount of channels), progressive decoding, etc.), but our reality has to suck because of google.
I locally use jxl to store family photos, but this means i can not send them, because they are using stuff which does not support jxl, so have to convert and share.
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I work in big tech and this is my life. I envy anyone who thinks you're exaggerating, because that means they haven't experienced the joy of spending weeks trying to track down the team responsible for a bug and then months hassling them to fix it.
And if they do talk to each other, the different departments need to go through the whole hierarchy for everything and each manager puts their spin on it, so you get answers back from questions that were not asked.
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And in a SANE world, somebody who learned a lesson would be using their knowledge so we don't keep repeating the same crap over and over again.
It's Microsoft you are talking about here
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Do the traditional JPG vs PNG usage "rules" apply to AVIF and JPEG XL?
IMO AVIF works really well at making convincing looking results at really high compression ratios, it's worse at pretty much everything else.
And occasionally the 'convincing looking' results aren't actually very accurate to the original image...
But those results really do look very convincing.
And IMO one of the most compelling features of JPEG-XL is its' great lossless compression, although it is generally good all-around. AVIF is pretty terrible at lossless compression, usually well-behind WebP and only a bit better than PNG.
Anyways, for photos, if you want to compress them a ton then maybe AVIF is best, but if you want high quality JXL is probably best.
I think https://cloudinary.com/blog/jpeg-xl-and-the-pareto-front is a good comparison
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And as per usual, VLC seems to somehow have all the codecs already.
pot player as now my daily driver instead of VLC.. It has so many features that VLC is lacking. Willl convert any audio stream to subtitles or another language.
convert subtitles to audio in any language
fantastic multi-monitor support.
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And if they do talk to each other, the different departments need to go through the whole hierarchy for everything and each manager puts their spin on it, so you get answers back from questions that were not asked.
Here's a real and true story about how separate Microsoft teams communicate and coordinate:
Few weeks ago, some Microsoft team from the US deprecated some critical service used by other Microsoft products. They just shut it off without notifying anyone. Other teams from other Microsoft offices in the rest of the world found about this deprecation when their production builds started failing to log customers in to the applications that they need for their businesses. People were called in from their vacations, emergency meetings were held to play hot potato with responsibility. Clients were PISSED. I stopped following the drama before it was resolved.
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Back when Windows 3.1 only supported BMP and maybe JPG
Fancy pants over here with their pictures and color.
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And in a SANE world, somebody who learned a lesson would be using their knowledge so we don't keep repeating the same crap over and over again.
Thought you were making a joke about SANE, but that doesn't actually provide PNG handling, does it? 🫠
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pot player as now my daily driver instead of VLC.. It has so many features that VLC is lacking. Willl convert any audio stream to subtitles or another language.
convert subtitles to audio in any language
fantastic multi-monitor support.
huh, looks pretty nice.
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I kept a copy of the old Windows XP version of media viewer/pictute viewer, whatever the hell its generic name was becsuse at some point in, IIRC, Vista, they updated it to some piece of garbage that had an uglier UI, worked slower, had no options for slideshows, and didn't even support shit like animated .gifs.
Even that old ass program can open a .webp image.
Wait how does that program know how to open webp? Does webp have like a fallback png mode or something?
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Is this the only drawback though? Genuinely curious
Probably not, some here say there are better formats, but it's still much better at (almost?) everything than GIF
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taking a screenshot can solve some of this problem
I usually convert the image using FFMPEG and that works great.
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Time to screenshot the preview and stretch out the jpeg. Upload it when the time calls, only for the web server to re-encode it in webp. The cycle continues.
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It's a codec issue. You can get the codec if your OEM paid for it, if not you can buy it on the MS store. It sucks but plenty of other codecs have had the same issue in the past on windows, mkv wasn't playable by windows unless you had a codec for it.
I haven't used windows in years, but I thought this was just about software patents for these codecs. So it should work in regions where software patents are not a thing then (e.g. Europe)?
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I usually convert the image using FFMPEG and that works great.
/nods in that thank you kinds of way
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Irfanviewer hours
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It's Microsoft you are talking about here
Hear me out:
AI-powered webp support
