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  • P [email protected]

    Change the game, then. If you were a real player, you'd have the influence or ability to end the game. You're just making excuses to keep going as normal.

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    I'm not some 'real player'. I'm you're average tech bro smart enough to be buying land.

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      Do you even know what anarchism is like at all?

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      Your username is a bit of a contradictio in terminis, if I may say so.

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        What I don't get is why the people of Barcelona want tourists out. That's such a dumb knee-jerk reaction imho. Tourism is not the problem. In fact it's a major revenue for the city. They could use it to build affordable housing for locals. The government could put a cap on rent and similar restrictions on whatever Airbnb arrangements. If it's not more profitable to give out one's property for short term rentals then the trend will fade. If someone can explain the current anti-tourism stance as opposed to a push for alternative measures I'd appreciate it.

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          False. I try my best to win at whatever ruleset is in front of me. Its human nature and game theory.

          The game of capitalism is absolute horseshit. You should hate it. Work to tear it down if you're up for it.

          I took the cowardly - if you can't beat them join them - approach.

          I'll bet my life will be better than yours given our choices though. So who's right?

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          Fuck me, for self-proclaimed coward you are unbelievably smug. Don't you consider that a "better" life also means being able to take pride that the way you move through the world doesn't actively harm others. Just awful.

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            What I don't get is why the people of Barcelona want tourists out. That's such a dumb knee-jerk reaction imho. Tourism is not the problem. In fact it's a major revenue for the city. They could use it to build affordable housing for locals. The government could put a cap on rent and similar restrictions on whatever Airbnb arrangements. If it's not more profitable to give out one's property for short term rentals then the trend will fade. If someone can explain the current anti-tourism stance as opposed to a push for alternative measures I'd appreciate it.

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            I’m guessing all those things that could and should happen are not happening because of greed.

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            • D [email protected]

              It never ceases to amaze me how people get get so brainwashed on xenophobia and hating tourists when its their government at fault.

              Edit: Well looks like 18 lemmy users didn't read the news. Locals in barcelonia were literally harassing tourists with water-guns, instead of actually protesting against their government.

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              Its about the cost of living and lack of affordable housing when companies buy up or build new places just to rent them out on airbnb, that's why it says it used to be their home. Nothing to do with tourism or xenophobia.

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              • natenate60@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                Okay, but who. I want the name of a specific person or organisation and a link to where they said that. Because it's such a stupid statement that I'm not going to just take someone's word that someone was dumb enough to say it or thought people would be dumb enough to believe it.

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                oh boy, do I have some bad news for you about the stupid shit people believe

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                  I know at least one city in France taking measures to severely limit Airbnb, because it's becoming a ghost town and people who actually work there can't find anywhere to live. The housing situation in the area is terrible.

                  Good for them. I already can't stand "professional" landlords that get into the business of shitting over places people need to live to maximise profit. Those who are taking over those spaces to turn them into fake hotels without the constraints are the lowest of that scum.

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                    Its about the cost of living and lack of affordable housing when companies buy up or build new places just to rent them out on airbnb, that's why it says it used to be their home. Nothing to do with tourism or xenophobia.

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                    Looks like someone didn't read the news.

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                      What I don't get is why the people of Barcelona want tourists out. That's such a dumb knee-jerk reaction imho. Tourism is not the problem. In fact it's a major revenue for the city. They could use it to build affordable housing for locals. The government could put a cap on rent and similar restrictions on whatever Airbnb arrangements. If it's not more profitable to give out one's property for short term rentals then the trend will fade. If someone can explain the current anti-tourism stance as opposed to a push for alternative measures I'd appreciate it.

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                      The government could put a cap on rent and similar restrictions on whatever Airbnb arrangements.

                      Not easy. They tried but don't have the authority. I think they managed for home long term rentals but not as aggressive as before.

                      The revenue from tourism is limited to the city. Most rentals are owned by large foreign companies, so profit goes away. Clearly not enough to pay for extra housing (one airbnb house taxes can't pay for a full new house).

                      Also, they are pushing away people who lived there, as the neighborhoods are focusing on tourists more and more (again, foreign investment firms who don't spend back in the city).

                      I used to live 25 min walking to Sagrada Familia. 8 years ago there were usually no tourists or stores focused on tourists. Now it's a very common place for tourists to stay, and prices show it.

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                        What I don't get is why the people of Barcelona want tourists out. That's such a dumb knee-jerk reaction imho. Tourism is not the problem. In fact it's a major revenue for the city. They could use it to build affordable housing for locals. The government could put a cap on rent and similar restrictions on whatever Airbnb arrangements. If it's not more profitable to give out one's property for short term rentals then the trend will fade. If someone can explain the current anti-tourism stance as opposed to a push for alternative measures I'd appreciate it.

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                        Because the people making money are not the people living there.

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                          I remember when it was about renting your place for a few days when you were traveling

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                          Do those rentals still exist?

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                            Pardon the confusion. This is Lemmy, anarchism is a utopistic solution where everyone sings kumbaya and gets along, not an apocalyptic hellscape where the people with the most guns amass all power. Fortunately, there has never been a societal experiment to determine what anarchy really is, so no one has to be proven wrong.

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                            ah, makes sense. thanks

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                              Funny how if you remove all landlords no one loses their home.

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                                Yes indeed. I think in Europe the worst is probably Lisbon, that has basically been overrun by foreigners, but that's a common phenomenon in all major cities.

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                                that has basically been overrun by foreigners, greedy real estate investors

                                There, FTFY

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                                  And the corporations have spent so much time and money fighting the idea that now anarchists are now associated with terrorists amongst boomers at least.

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                                  amongst stupid boomers at least.

                                  There, FTFY.

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                                    To be fair, that's not just due to corporations but also due to the mismatch in meaning between anarchist as a political movement and anarchist as a word from the dictionary. The movement covers only a small portion of what the word covers. Communicating more clearly as a movement can avoid the confusion

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                                    You mean anarchism vs anarchy.

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                                      Build. More. Homes.

                                      We used to have enough, and then in the late 70s, early 80s they decided that if they didn't build enough, then they could make housing scarce and therefore more valuable. A big long-con, 40 years in the making.

                                      Housebuilders would make more profit per home. Homeowners would have more wealth (even if they can't access it). Inheritance taxes could take more of a bite. Landlords could charge more. Retirements could be funded entirely by buying 2-3 houses and renting them out, and then cash in later on the full value of those homes when they'd gone up by double the interest rates.

                                      They don't have to be amazing homes. They don't need an acre of land to sit on. They don't need three bedrooms. Kitchen, bedroom, bathroom, living room. Affordable on a quarter of a single person's minimum wage income.

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                                        Funny how if you remove all landlords no one loses their home.

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                                        People who can no longer afford their mortgages would disagree with you.

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                                          that has basically been overrun by foreigners, greedy real estate investors

                                          There, FTFY

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                                          Greedy real instate investors bought everything there because there was a demand from non Portuguese people with much higher salaries than the locals.

                                          You don't see that type of phenomenon in random towns in the Portuguese back country

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