I know nothing about computers but this does not add up
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It's Microsoft you are talking about here
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It produces huge files compared to more modern lossless formats.
Any other format for lossless to recommend?
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Wait how does that program know how to open webp? Does webp have like a fallback png mode or something?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Webp is a format Google made. Something gave it a codec, so it knows how to open it. It a program doesn't have the codec to read it, no go.
This may work depending on your application
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AI-powered webp supportWouldn't touch it with a hundred-foot pole.
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I was trying to write something that would save an AVIF image this week. Holy shit the ecosystem is bad. I had to encode the image and write the exif tags with two different libraries. The latter being a CLI program and not a library. The WEBP situation is even worse.
We are never getting away from JPEG.
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Here's a real and true story about how separate Microsoft teams communicate and coordinate:
Few weeks ago, some Microsoft team from the US deprecated some critical service used by other Microsoft products. They just shut it off without notifying anyone. Other teams from other Microsoft offices in the rest of the world found about this deprecation when their production builds started failing to log customers in to the applications that they need for their businesses. People were called in from their vacations, emergency meetings were held to play hot potato with responsibility. Clients were PISSED. I stopped following the drama before it was resolved.
What is actually the best way to set up good communication between people and departments? Daily stand-ups tend to become hour long meetings. Make it an e-mail means people don't read it half the time, some even having a rule to automatically shred that kind of mails. Set up talks between people and have a bunch of them not showing up but then get angry nobody asked them for their opinion.
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What is actually the best way to set up good communication between people and departments? Daily stand-ups tend to become hour long meetings. Make it an e-mail means people don't read it half the time, some even having a rule to automatically shred that kind of mails. Set up talks between people and have a bunch of them not showing up but then get angry nobody asked them for their opinion.
For example a matrix org structure can do wonders.
Really, anything other than vertical hierarchical setup favored by so many tech companies.
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Webp is a format Google made. Something gave it a codec, so it knows how to open it. It a program doesn't have the codec to read it, no go.
This may work depending on your application
https://github.com/jacklicn/libwebpAh fair enough, I thought that with it being Windows XP era software made by Microsoft, it wouldn't load codecs dynamically like that lol
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For example a matrix org structure can do wonders.
Really, anything other than vertical hierarchical setup favored by so many tech companies.
No no, it needs to be more present, more ubiquitous, more "ubi-soft"
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Little tech? Like, a micro company that makes software? A "micro-soft", if you will.
No no, it needs to be more present, more ubiquitous, more "ubi-soft"
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I loathe windows, but I did just double check because this sounds inept even for M$ -- Win photos will absolutely open .webp, but it's not the default program for whatever reason and it just defaults to edge /
your_default_web_browser_here. Which is just impressively on brand for microsoft. Even when they have a feature they hide it to, idk, make themselves look even worse? Why not!::: spoiler proof
:::(FWIW this is a clean install, I do not have any non-default codecs installed)
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Huh? I am pretty sure I didn't have any problem opening WebP files when I was still using Windows 10 (switched to Debian GNU/Linux btw).
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I just hate webp because it’s supported in a grand total of 2 programs so it’s just annoying to deal with
I like how you say that it's supported by grand total of 2 programs, yet I never had any problems opening it in any media viewing software. Even Windows Paint opens it as far as I am aware.
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I kept a copy of the old Windows XP version of media viewer/pictute viewer, whatever the hell its generic name was becsuse at some point in, IIRC, Vista, they updated it to some piece of garbage that had an uglier UI, worked slower, had no options for slideshows, and didn't even support shit like animated .gifs.
Even that old ass program can open a .webp image.
I think it opens webp images, because it uses some built-in library (in your OS) to load and display images. WebP format was introduced in 2010, and Windows XP in 2001, so it couldn't support it out of the box.
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I guess it's Windows users with the default image viewer. IrfanView on W10 handles webp fine for me.
IrfanView is GOAT. On par with VLC or Firefox IMO.
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Is this a matter of time, or do most programs never plan to add support?
I do expect it to be a matter of time. Typically, you pull some image rendering library into your program, which pulls in a whole bunch of libraries that support the different image formats.
As such, it's the job of that intermediary library to support as many formats as possible. If you keep that intermediary library up-to-date, you may get support for new image formats without really doing anything.But well, it may take more time for this to happen, for various reasons. One reason is obviously that we already have other image formats that may not be amazing, but they work everywhere, so most people continue to use those.
Another aspect that may slow adoption down, is that .webp was spear-headed by Google alone. Normally, you get other industry leaders into the boat, to make sure you cover everyone's use-cases and have somewhat of a commitment for them to integrate it. I assume that Photoshop supports .webp by now, but it probably took relatively long for that to happen, for example. -
Is this a Windows problem I'm too Linux to understand?
Seriously, everything on my computer -- Firefox, Dolphin, Gwenview, GIMP, etc. -- supports webp just fine.
I’m too Linux to understand?
The advantage of using shared libraries is that you only need the one to support webp system-wide and then all apps that need it have it.
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Hear me out:
AI-powered webp supportMany more possibility for exploits
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I do expect it to be a matter of time. Typically, you pull some image rendering library into your program, which pulls in a whole bunch of libraries that support the different image formats.
As such, it's the job of that intermediary library to support as many formats as possible. If you keep that intermediary library up-to-date, you may get support for new image formats without really doing anything.But well, it may take more time for this to happen, for various reasons. One reason is obviously that we already have other image formats that may not be amazing, but they work everywhere, so most people continue to use those.
Another aspect that may slow adoption down, is that .webp was spear-headed by Google alone. Normally, you get other industry leaders into the boat, to make sure you cover everyone's use-cases and have somewhat of a commitment for them to integrate it. I assume that Photoshop supports .webp by now, but it probably took relatively long for that to happen, for example.Superb explanation. Many thanks for the insight Ephera!
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avif is better than it in almost all ways, and jpex xl is even better than that (but not about gifs i think)
webp is essentially a webm file (which is mkv with codec restrictions(vp8/9 and ogg vorbis or opus))
avif is av1 encoded files in a webp like container (but not webm afaik)
jpeg xl is a format made specifically for images
AV1 is only supported by new devices, most support VP9. For example, the iPad Air 2024 does not support AV1.
