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    I think way more of windows 11 is just edge in a trenchcoat than anyone wants to admit...

    Can't get away from it at work and i hate it. All we need computers for at work is web access and file sharing, but they still won't budge from daddy Microsoft.

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    I wouldn't mind if all those Electron apps could use it to save space, but no. Everything still comes with 600MB of Chromium bolted to it like a tumour.

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      I loathe windows, but I did just double check because this sounds inept even for M$ -- Win photos will absolutely open .webp, but it's not the default program for whatever reason and it just defaults to edge / your_default_web_browser_here. Which is just impressively on brand for microsoft. Even when they have a feature they hide it to, idk, make themselves look even worse? Why not!

      ::: spoiler proof

      :::

      (FWIW this is a clean install, I do not have any non-default codecs installed)

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      THANK YOU. you just saved me so much time with the knowledge.

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        I know a bunch about computers and that doesn't add up to me either!! I hate the webp format.

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        It means explorer is running in a web view

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          It means explorer is running in a web view

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          It doesn't necessarily.

          Webp is just a file format like jpg, or png or anything else. You can implement support for it in a native app just the same as any other format.

          What certainly IS true is that browsers supported it first (because distributing media on the web is what it was designed for as a format) and a lot of native image viewer apps are still lagging behind on their support.

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            Ah fair enough, I thought that with it being Windows XP era software made by Microsoft, it wouldn't load codecs dynamically like that lol

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            Yeah there was a codec pack made by klite that I use to download from the sketchiest sites. I think I used to use media player classic with that codec pack before I knew about VLC. Otherwise you'd be fighting all the time to play get things to play. You'd be downloading content from P2P sites like Napster, Kazaa, Limewire, and what not, and coming across file types you wouldn't recognize (and a lot of content that wasn't what you thought it was until after you opened it). Which is why many of us learned a decent amount about malware through our own naivety. Install sketchy software to play sketchy media, end up with sketchy results. But so many of us did it.

            Windows media player was the most common way people knew to burn CDs that most of my friends knew. So you would either rip CDs that family members had, or download songs offline, try to get them all into the same file format and name/organized them into a nice playlist that went well together. And burn them and listen to them walking around. They were a big "gf/bf" gift back then as well. If you wanted to tell someone you liked them spending the time to curate a CD of songs you thought they would like mixed with ones you knew they like and giving them it with a personalized written track list on the top was a huge hit.

            You may know all of this but it brings back some good memories. Haha. I remember doing that for a girl I liked in Elementary School... And subsequently being dumb enough to NOT know a girl who did that for me was into me. She made one of me and my friend because she was nervous about just giving one to me, and I of course thought, well she made one for him too so it might not mean what you think..

            Couple years later in 7th grade she told me she had had the biggest crush on me back then and I was shocked. (Also may have been a clue that I should have picked up on, but I was to much of a doof still.. oops)

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              I know a bunch about computers and that doesn't add up to me either!! I hate the webp format.

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              Webp is honestly a really good format for what its made to do. That being said, windows support for it is lacking for some reason. I don't know why as it's been common for a long time now.

              Also, you can always use ffmpeg to convert to png or jpg or whatever you want. Simple file conversions like that are super easy.

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                I didn't have time to check all the comments, so here's a backup:

                Just install GNU/Linux

                😉

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                KDE Plasma let's me use .jxl files as my wallpaper. I can also take screenshots in .jxl.

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                  Webp is honestly a really good format for what its made to do. That being said, windows support for it is lacking for some reason. I don't know why as it's been common for a long time now.

                  Also, you can always use ffmpeg to convert to png or jpg or whatever you want. Simple file conversions like that are super easy.

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                  .jxl is better though

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                    is webp patented? good I hate IP laws

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                    No, i was confused with heic

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                    • daggermoon@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                      KDE Plasma let's me use .jxl files as my wallpaper. I can also take screenshots in .jxl.

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                      The operating system support for JPEG XL is really there! By now even Windows supports it natively. Not only previews in the file manager, but also in the media viewer.

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                        .jxl is better though

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                        I'm not familiar, but it does look useful. Seems to combine the best of both png and jpg, with the power of jpg's compression with the option of lossless compression + support for transparency or whatever else you might want to have a channel for

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                          Yeah there was a codec pack made by klite that I use to download from the sketchiest sites. I think I used to use media player classic with that codec pack before I knew about VLC. Otherwise you'd be fighting all the time to play get things to play. You'd be downloading content from P2P sites like Napster, Kazaa, Limewire, and what not, and coming across file types you wouldn't recognize (and a lot of content that wasn't what you thought it was until after you opened it). Which is why many of us learned a decent amount about malware through our own naivety. Install sketchy software to play sketchy media, end up with sketchy results. But so many of us did it.

                          Windows media player was the most common way people knew to burn CDs that most of my friends knew. So you would either rip CDs that family members had, or download songs offline, try to get them all into the same file format and name/organized them into a nice playlist that went well together. And burn them and listen to them walking around. They were a big "gf/bf" gift back then as well. If you wanted to tell someone you liked them spending the time to curate a CD of songs you thought they would like mixed with ones you knew they like and giving them it with a personalized written track list on the top was a huge hit.

                          You may know all of this but it brings back some good memories. Haha. I remember doing that for a girl I liked in Elementary School... And subsequently being dumb enough to NOT know a girl who did that for me was into me. She made one of me and my friend because she was nervous about just giving one to me, and I of course thought, well she made one for him too so it might not mean what you think..

                          Couple years later in 7th grade she told me she had had the biggest crush on me back then and I was shocked. (Also may have been a clue that I should have picked up on, but I was to much of a doof still.. oops)

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                          Ah yeah I grew up on XP too, but it was early enough in my life that I barely remember. I did use the ol' Windows Media Player for music before Winamp and BS Player (and then later VLC), but I don't remember what I actually burned CDs with. I do think all my music off LimeWire worked just fine with WMP though, without having to download any codecs. But then at some point I started using iTunes because I had an iPod, maybe that had more codecs bundled with it too.

                          Last music CD I burned was in 2015 when I got my first car, a 1992 model with an aftermarket stereo that had a CD slot, and while it also had AUX, 3.5G wasn't all that great everywhere and I didn't have a 4G phone yet lol. Me and my then gf made it together so the styles were VERY varied lol, I had shit like Schoolboy Q while she had stuff like Tracy Chapman, it was quite literally a bipolar music CD.

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                            KDE Plasma let's me use .jxl files as my wallpaper. I can also take screenshots in .jxl.

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                            Same Plasma here. I'm using SHADERS as my background. Currently the Balatro menu shader.

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                              I'm not familiar, but it does look useful. Seems to combine the best of both png and jpg, with the power of jpg's compression with the option of lossless compression + support for transparency or whatever else you might want to have a channel for

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                              Same goes for webp, it even supports video/"gifs".

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                                Hear me out:
                                AI-powered webp support

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                                I remember it being suggested that AI image generators could be used as an extremely lossy image format, since you can generally get the same generator to output the same image given the same weights, seed, settings and prompt

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                                  I just converted all the images on my website to webp for faster load time.
                                  Very happy with it.

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                                  I was farting around with renpy and grabbed some free assets since I wasn't making anything important, and I noticed that each image was a full megabyte, so I converted them to webp and reduced the entire project from 20mb down to just a few megs (I don't remember specifically but I remember it was a significant reduction)

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                                    Just use a proper Operating System and silly problems like that will go away.

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                                      I'm not familiar, but it does look useful. Seems to combine the best of both png and jpg, with the power of jpg's compression with the option of lossless compression + support for transparency or whatever else you might want to have a channel for

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                                      It's fucking awesome. I can losslessly convert a .jpg to a .jxl and back to a .jpg. The only problem is support in browsers and other software. .webp and .avif are fine for the most part but they seem to get all of the attention and support when .jxl is better in most ways and is a future proofed format.

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                                        The operating system support for JPEG XL is really there! By now even Windows supports it natively. Not only previews in the file manager, but also in the media viewer.

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                                        Yeah, I copied a .jxl over to my Windows 11 VM out of curiosity and was surprised to see it opened just fine.

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