Google: 'Your $1000 phone needs our permission to install apps now'". Android users are screwed - Louis Rossmann
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Their arguments are kind of lame. To install APKs from outside the store is already an involved process that generally makes it harder for the uninformed to sideload. Make sideloading a bit harder, but possible. My xiaomi makes me wait and read warnings before installing APKs, for example.
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Well the assumption is that the Graphene team will be able to maintain non-store app installs. There's recent news that Google is no longer providing update packages the way they used to which will make it harder on Graphene to update stuff too.
We can't assume that Google's next update will not functionally block the ability for GrapheneOS as well.
The Graphene OS team have said that they are going to continue, have received the pixel 10 phones they ordered and have put out a statement regarding this issue.
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So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved
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Does it...work yet? Last I heard phone calls were dodgy...
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So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved
wrote last edited by [email protected]Everywhere I talk about some corporation removing features you bought and paid for, someone says that "they personally would never used that feature", or "serves them right for buying from that company".
In other words, go fuck yourself.
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Does it...work yet? Last I heard phone calls were dodgy...
For which one? so far both are option outside iOS and android
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So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved
what will most people do, who don't have a google pixel?
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GrapheneOS is one of the last bastions of freedom remaining. I don't know what we'll do if that happens.
sailfish?
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GrapheneOS is one of the last bastions of freedom remaining. I don't know what we'll do if that happens.
wrote last edited by [email protected]For my next phone it will be between a used Pixel with Graphene OS and the Fairphone 6 with the de-Googled e/OS option. A modern Pixel would be a little better for CPU, camera and RAM, but the Fairphone has decent hardware specs and tries to be more ethical about the environment and its suppliers, and it has a replaceable battery. The Fairphone is expensive in the USA though.
https://shop.fairphone.com/the-fairphone-gen-6-e-operating-system
https://www.wired.com/review/fairphone-gen-6/
Edit: After reading this thread I would lean towards Graphene OS:
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Purism scams their customers left, right, and center and have for effectively their entire existence. They should not be trusted, and their phone specs are basically from 2013 sold for $800.
So even if you're idealistic enough to pay $800 for a phone that'd be in a landfill if it didn't have hardware privacy features, Purism will take that trust you have in them and screw you over – delay you for as long as they need to/can/want with no recourse for a refund outside of maybe the courts. After which you hope you either get a functioning product or get good luck with a disorganized, opaque, scumfuck company like that.
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Purism scams their customers left, right, and center and have for effectively their entire existence. They should not be trusted, and their phone specs are basically from 2013 sold for $800.
So even if you're idealistic enough to pay $800 for a phone that'd be in a landfill if it didn't have hardware privacy features, Purism will take that trust you have in them and screw you over – delay you for as long as they need to/can/want with no recourse for a refund outside of maybe the courts. After which you hope you either get a functioning product or get good luck with a disorganized, opaque, scumfuck company like that.
Thanks for sharing so looks like that one is not an option anymore
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So ,i install graphene OS on a pixel phone ,problem solved
Just give google more money, no thanks.
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With this shift and other control based decisions Google has been making, does Apple devices start to make more sense? Neither platform offers true control over there device you "own", but Apple at the very least isn't a marketing company.
I can't believe a company hasn't swooped in and eaten Apple and Google's lunch.
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GrapheneOS is one of the last bastions of freedom remaining. I don't know what we'll do if that happens.
Linux phones I guess. I really don’t know.
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The Graphene OS team have said that they are going to continue, have received the pixel 10 phones they ordered and have put out a statement regarding this issue.
wrote last edited by [email protected]No they didn't..
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/25099-pixel-10-still-too-early-to-ask-us-when-it-will-be-supported
Our Pixel 10 support will likely only be possible to complete after we finish porting to Android 16 QPR1 which is being released in September.
They don't know IF they can even support it until they figure out the new releases that are jacking up their dev cycle.
It will be significantly more work than usual to support the new Pixel 10 phones since Android 16 removed the Pixel device trees from the Android Open Source Project. However, that was already only part of what we need for device support and we worked around it by expanding our automated tooling.
This is exactly the issue I'm referencing. Google can completely sabotage this route. We don't know yet.
Edit: I should clarify that they did say they're trying to continue, but should they not be able to crack the device tree issues they will be stuck. Nothing they released said that they've figured this issue out yet.
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iPhone user: “Well well well, how the turntables.”
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TFW more than half of my phone's applications is getting thanos snapped and it's also carrier-locked
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lol the pinned comment on this video is
“Ok, so what do i switch to now? I refuse apple. So what do i have to chose from?”,
and Louis’ reply is “nothing”.
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With this shift and other control based decisions Google has been making, does Apple devices start to make more sense? Neither platform offers true control over there device you "own", but Apple at the very least isn't a marketing company.
I can't believe a company hasn't swooped in and eaten Apple and Google's lunch.
You need a certain critical mass to enter this market, since you need to be able to get an army of Foxconn slaves to produce the handsets.
No company is going to be and to swoop in and eat those two's lunches.
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I know it's not really ready for it yet, but I guess I'm gonna be looking into a Linux phone before I thought I would.
