You'll never see them again
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I think your opinion is by far the more popular view right now. I completely disagree though. Almost every mini-series I see I'm left dumbstruck as I feel like any decent editor could have gotten the same story across just as well with a 2 or 2.5h movie instead. I feel like they are just wasting my time.
And then you end up with a 6 hour story chopped to shit and get a very disjointed movie that feels like you're watching what was left of the film stock after Bubba Sawyer had a turn in the editing room.
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it's not supposed to be good it's supposed to be fun
I… but bad acting isn’t fun!
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Twin Peaks started out good and stayed good. I didn't get around to watching it until the late 2000s. I had heard that it started to fall apart after the killer was revealed, but it just kept getting better.
It isn't for everybody, though, and it probably just got too weird for a mainstream audience.
Have you seen the third season? Came out in 2017. I think it's some of the best TV that's ever been made.
Especially episode 8. Just pure David Lynch surreal perfection, right in my veins.
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50 years ago: 6 episodes in a season and stop after 2 seasons because it's well written without a bunch of useless filler.
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I… but bad acting isn’t fun!
Comrades, make them watch the entire nonpornographic half of the Ed Wood Collection.
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Twin peaks?
Two seasons in the early 90s, then a third season in 2017 where David Lynch basically got a blank check to completely unleash his beautiful insanity. Definitely shows the differences between what was acceptable on broadcast TV back then, vs what's acceptable on cable/streaming in a much more modern era.
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And then you end up with a 6 hour story chopped to shit and get a very disjointed movie that feels like you're watching what was left of the film stock after Bubba Sawyer had a turn in the editing room.
No. Good movie editing has been happening since shortly after movies were a thing. Huge books have been made into really good movies. Streaming has opened up new outlet for mini-series like content and some of it really takes advantage of the format to deliver new kinds of story telling that can be worth the time investment. However, most of it is just about generating content with minimal editing and borrowing hook techniques that evolved from TV drama series in the 80s and 90s.
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Have you seen the third season? Came out in 2017. I think it's some of the best TV that's ever been made.
Especially episode 8. Just pure David Lynch surreal perfection, right in my veins.
Yes! I love it.
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Comrades, make them watch the entire nonpornographic half of the Ed Wood Collection.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO
I'm doing you a favor i'm sure the pornographic half is worse
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I hate when they release streaming shows one episode per week. I am not going to watch it until it’s done and I catch up on other shows. Stop trying to get me to watch weekly, it’s not going to happen. That’s just not how people watch tv anymore.
So a new show to me is new for a solid year before i can get to it sometimes. So many times a show gets cancelled before I can watch it and half the time I lose interest once I know it’s cancelled
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Is there a television show that doesn't have a gun in it?
Black Books
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There is a weird inverse relationship between how long audiences will wait to give a show a chance, and how long execs (specifically Netflix) will give the show.
I think there must be more to the Netflix example. Maybe they are monitoring other data points like web searches or show mentions on fora to quantify buzz and work out if the show has hit potential with target markets. Either that or they get some new opportunity for creative accounting with each show.
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Also TV now: This show/movie did well 40 years ago so we rebooted it with people who never saw it, a shitload of special effects, and totally missed why it was popular in the first place.
Wait… have you also been trying out the MacGyver reboot from 2015???
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Is there a television show that doesn't have a gun in it?
I had the exact same thought. Abandoning American productions is the best way, although it sometimes means reading subtitles. For example, many of these are free to watch:
Ireland https://www.tg4.ie/en/player/online-boxsets/
South Korea https://www.viki.com/categories/country/korea/genre/all -
Part of the problem is that modern shows have far smaller audience than two decades ago in absolute numbers. The most watched shows today have horrific numbers compared to previous decades.
I hadn't thought of that. When something was broadcasted then, everybody watched it. And at the same time even.
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Back when you had TV on a specific schedule, you were forced to watch things as they were. If a show was clunky, well you didn't have much choice in the matter, it was watch that or change channel or go outside.
With on-demand stuff, you can just completely skip over stuff you might actually like because the first few episodes are clunky. Why should I watch something clunky when I have the choice to watch something I know is good from the start?
...I'm still not watching One Piece though, I don't care how good it gets later.
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That's some rose colored glasses right there.
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Black Books
You just have to forget that it's Graham Linehan who wrote that because it never quite hits the same when you realise who it was. It's the same with IT Crowd and Father Ted.
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The Netflix show, House of Cards, in the first few minutes of the first episode, Kevin Spacey stumbles on a hit-and-run and there's a badly injured dog. He puts it out of its misery.
According to Netflix who wanted it removed, it led to a major drop off of people dropping off the show. But to the showrunner, that's the point.
Now, people drop off that show when Kevin Spacey appears so whatever.
It's amazing Black Mirror ever got off the ground then...
