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What should I use for VM management ?

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    Hi there
    I'd like a vm manager to create a few machine to avoid breaking my host system when doing bad things

    I've tried some things:

    Multipass
    it seems to be the best for me: one line to create and launch a VM, this is wonderful, but I don't have ipv6 on it which is bad, I like ipv6

    LXD:
    seems cool, web ui is great, installed, but for now my VM have connectivity issues, self signed certificate doesn't work on firefox, so I have to use chromium which I hate, I'd also like to avoid using user certificate and use password + OTP don't know if it's possible

    Proxmox: not yet tried but seems to require a complete system reinstall

    Proxmox and LXD might be a bit too much because I don't plan on having many VMs, maybe 2 or 3, but I really like to be able to manage them quickly on the web

    Do you have any recommandations ?

    Thanks !

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      Hi there
      I'd like a vm manager to create a few machine to avoid breaking my host system when doing bad things

      I've tried some things:

      Multipass
      it seems to be the best for me: one line to create and launch a VM, this is wonderful, but I don't have ipv6 on it which is bad, I like ipv6

      LXD:
      seems cool, web ui is great, installed, but for now my VM have connectivity issues, self signed certificate doesn't work on firefox, so I have to use chromium which I hate, I'd also like to avoid using user certificate and use password + OTP don't know if it's possible

      Proxmox: not yet tried but seems to require a complete system reinstall

      Proxmox and LXD might be a bit too much because I don't plan on having many VMs, maybe 2 or 3, but I really like to be able to manage them quickly on the web

      Do you have any recommandations ?

      Thanks !

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      virt-manager

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        Hi there
        I'd like a vm manager to create a few machine to avoid breaking my host system when doing bad things

        I've tried some things:

        Multipass
        it seems to be the best for me: one line to create and launch a VM, this is wonderful, but I don't have ipv6 on it which is bad, I like ipv6

        LXD:
        seems cool, web ui is great, installed, but for now my VM have connectivity issues, self signed certificate doesn't work on firefox, so I have to use chromium which I hate, I'd also like to avoid using user certificate and use password + OTP don't know if it's possible

        Proxmox: not yet tried but seems to require a complete system reinstall

        Proxmox and LXD might be a bit too much because I don't plan on having many VMs, maybe 2 or 3, but I really like to be able to manage them quickly on the web

        Do you have any recommandations ?

        Thanks !

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        @Salcie
        I haven't tried many alternatives because Proxmox really seems to be the thing people prefer whether they have a handful of VMs or many more. It has what you ask: web UI, TOTP, ACME to avoid self-signed certs and ofc IPv6 support. It has many options which might be a bit intimidating at first especially for networks, but given its popularity finding tutorials should be easy.

        You can create VMs but also LXC containers; I'd recommend using the latter as they consume less resources and can be more straightforwardly configured from Proxmox. You might just need to set some obscure options if you want to run complex Docker setups inside but again tutorials help there.

        Hope this helps!
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          @Salcie
          I haven't tried many alternatives because Proxmox really seems to be the thing people prefer whether they have a handful of VMs or many more. It has what you ask: web UI, TOTP, ACME to avoid self-signed certs and ofc IPv6 support. It has many options which might be a bit intimidating at first especially for networks, but given its popularity finding tutorials should be easy.

          You can create VMs but also LXC containers; I'd recommend using the latter as they consume less resources and can be more straightforwardly configured from Proxmox. You might just need to set some obscure options if you want to run complex Docker setups inside but again tutorials help there.

          Hope this helps!
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          seems that proxmox requires a complete install which is impossible in my cas though

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            Hi there
            I'd like a vm manager to create a few machine to avoid breaking my host system when doing bad things

            I've tried some things:

            Multipass
            it seems to be the best for me: one line to create and launch a VM, this is wonderful, but I don't have ipv6 on it which is bad, I like ipv6

            LXD:
            seems cool, web ui is great, installed, but for now my VM have connectivity issues, self signed certificate doesn't work on firefox, so I have to use chromium which I hate, I'd also like to avoid using user certificate and use password + OTP don't know if it's possible

            Proxmox: not yet tried but seems to require a complete system reinstall

            Proxmox and LXD might be a bit too much because I don't plan on having many VMs, maybe 2 or 3, but I really like to be able to manage them quickly on the web

            Do you have any recommandations ?

            Thanks !

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            If you want something dead simple then Boxes will do the trick. It doesn't give you nearly as much flexibility as virt-manager or LXC, etc. but I've found it to be capable.

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              Hi there
              I'd like a vm manager to create a few machine to avoid breaking my host system when doing bad things

              I've tried some things:

              Multipass
              it seems to be the best for me: one line to create and launch a VM, this is wonderful, but I don't have ipv6 on it which is bad, I like ipv6

              LXD:
              seems cool, web ui is great, installed, but for now my VM have connectivity issues, self signed certificate doesn't work on firefox, so I have to use chromium which I hate, I'd also like to avoid using user certificate and use password + OTP don't know if it's possible

              Proxmox: not yet tried but seems to require a complete system reinstall

              Proxmox and LXD might be a bit too much because I don't plan on having many VMs, maybe 2 or 3, but I really like to be able to manage them quickly on the web

              Do you have any recommandations ?

              Thanks !

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              I use virt-manager for my lab VMs. Though, don't discount the power of containers (podman/docker) to isolate and run applications. And lastly, python environments via Conda or venv can create isolated enough environments when doing different things in Python.

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                Hi there
                I'd like a vm manager to create a few machine to avoid breaking my host system when doing bad things

                I've tried some things:

                Multipass
                it seems to be the best for me: one line to create and launch a VM, this is wonderful, but I don't have ipv6 on it which is bad, I like ipv6

                LXD:
                seems cool, web ui is great, installed, but for now my VM have connectivity issues, self signed certificate doesn't work on firefox, so I have to use chromium which I hate, I'd also like to avoid using user certificate and use password + OTP don't know if it's possible

                Proxmox: not yet tried but seems to require a complete system reinstall

                Proxmox and LXD might be a bit too much because I don't plan on having many VMs, maybe 2 or 3, but I really like to be able to manage them quickly on the web

                Do you have any recommandations ?

                Thanks !

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                Don't forget that there is a BIOS setting that allows VM to work faster. It's called virtualization. Search for the setting in your BIOS (it's called something different across manufacturers). It's usually located in a menu under "advanced CPU settings" or similar.

                It's often switched off by default.

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                  Hi there
                  I'd like a vm manager to create a few machine to avoid breaking my host system when doing bad things

                  I've tried some things:

                  Multipass
                  it seems to be the best for me: one line to create and launch a VM, this is wonderful, but I don't have ipv6 on it which is bad, I like ipv6

                  LXD:
                  seems cool, web ui is great, installed, but for now my VM have connectivity issues, self signed certificate doesn't work on firefox, so I have to use chromium which I hate, I'd also like to avoid using user certificate and use password + OTP don't know if it's possible

                  Proxmox: not yet tried but seems to require a complete system reinstall

                  Proxmox and LXD might be a bit too much because I don't plan on having many VMs, maybe 2 or 3, but I really like to be able to manage them quickly on the web

                  Do you have any recommandations ?

                  Thanks !

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                  Check out cockpit. https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit

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                    Hi there
                    I'd like a vm manager to create a few machine to avoid breaking my host system when doing bad things

                    I've tried some things:

                    Multipass
                    it seems to be the best for me: one line to create and launch a VM, this is wonderful, but I don't have ipv6 on it which is bad, I like ipv6

                    LXD:
                    seems cool, web ui is great, installed, but for now my VM have connectivity issues, self signed certificate doesn't work on firefox, so I have to use chromium which I hate, I'd also like to avoid using user certificate and use password + OTP don't know if it's possible

                    Proxmox: not yet tried but seems to require a complete system reinstall

                    Proxmox and LXD might be a bit too much because I don't plan on having many VMs, maybe 2 or 3, but I really like to be able to manage them quickly on the web

                    Do you have any recommandations ?

                    Thanks !

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                    Not for virt machines, but toolbox is an easy to use way to keep tooling environments separate from your main machine workspace. Requires/leverages Godmanchester over lxc/docker.
                    It's a big part of the fedora atomic/immutable stack, to allow you to install things without installing them.

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                      Hi there
                      I'd like a vm manager to create a few machine to avoid breaking my host system when doing bad things

                      I've tried some things:

                      Multipass
                      it seems to be the best for me: one line to create and launch a VM, this is wonderful, but I don't have ipv6 on it which is bad, I like ipv6

                      LXD:
                      seems cool, web ui is great, installed, but for now my VM have connectivity issues, self signed certificate doesn't work on firefox, so I have to use chromium which I hate, I'd also like to avoid using user certificate and use password + OTP don't know if it's possible

                      Proxmox: not yet tried but seems to require a complete system reinstall

                      Proxmox and LXD might be a bit too much because I don't plan on having many VMs, maybe 2 or 3, but I really like to be able to manage them quickly on the web

                      Do you have any recommandations ?

                      Thanks !

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                      Gnome-Boxes is very simple, yet effective. I think it is on flatpak too. Not sure if it supports ipv6.

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