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What is the opposite of Autism?

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  • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

    Apparently, something called Williams Syndrome.

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    ??????

    I’ve known precisely one person with this. It causes specific physical “abnormalities” and intellectual disability. I have no idea how it’s the opposite of autism

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    • jeffw@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

      ??????

      I’ve known precisely one person with this. It causes specific physical “abnormalities” and intellectual disability. I have no idea how it’s the opposite of autism

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      Me either. I was expecting to find a word I had heard used to describe neurotypical people as an antithesis to autism (allism or something? I don't recall, hence why I tried to look it up) looking up "opposite of autism" and I find tons of things saying Williams Syndrome is commonly referred to as just that.

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      • j4k3@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

        Dichotomous logic is always a fallacy. Still statistical probabilities hold analytical value.

        So if neuro normative is center, and Autism is a spectrum of a divergent branch, what branch or branches are most opposite Autism, sharing the least number of related traits?

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        It really depends on how you define the traits of autism. Traits like "difficulties in social communication" are a big part of ASD profiles, but a condition like ADHD can also lead to problems in social communication for entirely different underlying reasons. Basically any complex human capability can go wrong for a variety of reasons, and completely different conditions can lead to quite similar problems, just because those problem areas require that everything is running together smoothly.

        That said, I did an autism screening as part of my adhd diagnosis, and came out with 0/40. I joked, "oh good, so I guess at least I'm normal in that area" and they replied "uh, normally people get around 10-15/40, 0 is pretty rare". So I guess I'm pathologically un-autistic.

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        • jeffw@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

          ??????

          I’ve known precisely one person with this. It causes specific physical “abnormalities” and intellectual disability. I have no idea how it’s the opposite of autism

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          https://www.williams-syndrome.org/neurodevelopment-and-behavioral-health

          Really just the social aspect seemingly

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          • j4k3@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

            Dichotomous logic is always a fallacy. Still statistical probabilities hold analytical value.

            So if neuro normative is center, and Autism is a spectrum of a divergent branch, what branch or branches are most opposite Autism, sharing the least number of related traits?

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            I look forward to the generation long Austist/antiautist war

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            • j4k3@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

              Dichotomous logic is always a fallacy. Still statistical probabilities hold analytical value.

              So if neuro normative is center, and Autism is a spectrum of a divergent branch, what branch or branches are most opposite Autism, sharing the least number of related traits?

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              opposite of Autism?

              Intism.

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              • j4k3@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                Dichotomous logic is always a fallacy. Still statistical probabilities hold analytical value.

                So if neuro normative is center, and Autism is a spectrum of a divergent branch, what branch or branches are most opposite Autism, sharing the least number of related traits?

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                Things don't have to have opposites.

                Autism, for example.

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                • j4k3@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                  Dichotomous logic is always a fallacy. Still statistical probabilities hold analytical value.

                  So if neuro normative is center, and Autism is a spectrum of a divergent branch, what branch or branches are most opposite Autism, sharing the least number of related traits?

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                  Neurotypical would be the opposite.

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                    Things don't have to have opposites.

                    Autism, for example.

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                    Sure it does. There are traits that are of another polarity like, a lack of ethics, narcissism, bipolar, multiple personalities, or megalomania. If most autistic people are introverted, the opposite will be mostly extroverted in disorder.

                    For every force there is an opposite equilibrium in nature.

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                    • j4k3@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                      Sure it does. There are traits that are of another polarity like, a lack of ethics, narcissism, bipolar, multiple personalities, or megalomania. If most autistic people are introverted, the opposite will be mostly extroverted in disorder.

                      For every force there is an opposite equilibrium in nature.

                      E: wow this place has gotten insanely stupid at fundamental logic and reasoning skills. RIP – functionally useless and uninteresting place

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                      Usually, it is not the case that all the other cars on the highway are not going the wrong way.

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                      • j4k3@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                        Dichotomous logic is always a fallacy. Still statistical probabilities hold analytical value.

                        So if neuro normative is center, and Autism is a spectrum of a divergent branch, what branch or branches are most opposite Autism, sharing the least number of related traits?

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                        Chatty ADHD enjoyers, perhaps? They need to be constantly overstimulated, are interested and proficient in the interpersonal sides of life (nuanced and non-verbal communication are easy for them, for instance), are very comfortable with change and uncertainty and are reckless and unafraid...

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                          Usually, it is not the case that all the other cars on the highway are not going the wrong way.

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                          No one builds freeways in one direction. The center divider is neutral but cars go both ways

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                            No one builds freeways in one direction. The center divider is neutral but cars go both ways

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                            One way roads and split highways exist, but even on any typical divided road, you obviously can still drive the wrong way. Either way, you're conpletely missing the point. That phrase is used as a way of saying that if literally everyone else disagrees with you, then it's a lot more likely that you're the one who is wrong.

                            In this case, autism really doesn't have an "opposite". neurodevelopment is incredibly complex, and while some aspect exist on a spectrum, others don't. (and the traits or development patterns that do exist on a spectrum in this case exist mostly between autistic and allistic traits, not between autism and some "opposite" pattern.

                            And the other traits you mentioned exist on their own orthoganal axes.

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