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  • J [email protected]

    I hope the first, but i'd guess its the later.

    What the hell is their fascination with raw milk? Pasteurization does not add chemicals, it makes it safer!

    Where does this come from?

    Edit: wait, One liter? What?

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    There are heat sensitive compounds in milk that break down during pasteurization. They’re important if you’re a baby cow. I don’t think it’s worth risking your life for though.

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      Raw milk should be treated like ice cream - never let it get too warm, unless you’re pasteurizing or boiling it. Jesus Christ, these people.

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        I wouldn't have guessed before this image that a hundred blueberries would fit in a dish that small.

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          I wouldn't have guessed before this image that a hundred blueberries would fit in a dish that small.

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          There's an entire mathematical discipline that focuses on this.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere_packing

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          • I [email protected]

            There are heat sensitive compounds in milk that break down during pasteurization. They’re important if you’re a baby cow. I don’t think it’s worth risking your life for though.

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            When I was lifting, that's why some lifters would use raw milk for GOMAD. I was skeptical, as I'm sure GOMAD works because the overall amount of calories and high fat/protein content without having to think about other changes to your diet. I don't think those compounds would make much difference, if any.

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              It's just not good at room temperature, it's decent enough if it's a fair bit warmer than that.

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              I just can't. I gotta have my milk like it just came out of the fridge. One thing that I always thought was off the walls, though, was my dad would put ice in his milk.

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                What the hell is their fascination with raw milk?

                Where I live in the USA, it's become a trendy thing amongst rural conservatives. If someone is talking about how they switched to raw milk, it's almost a guarantee they are MAGA supporters. Which is wild, because when I was growing up, it was almost the complete opposite. Raw milk was a "hippy" thing for fringe, counter-culture liberals.

                My clearly biased opinion is that in this part of the US, drinking raw milk is at least partially a way to virtue signal and participate in the counter-culture. And when you think about it, drinking raw milk kind of actually makes sense in this context. It appeals to a lot of conservatives' cultural beliefs -- anti-science / mistrust of science, "rules for thee but not for me", and appeal to convention. Scientists are wrong. Nobody can tell me what I'm allowed to do. People drank raw milk for thousands of years and survived just fine.

                Speculative opinion aside: The people I've met over the years who seek out raw milk have mentioned a number of different reasons.

                Some say it tastes better than pasteurized milk. Some claim that raw milk is more nutritious than pasteurized because the heating process destroys or binds proteins, vitamins, immunity boosting components, etc in milk. Some do it because it's quicker or cheaper than a trip to the store (because they know the farmer, farmer lives close or delivers because farm is a friend/family member), and they're supporting local producers instead of giant conglomerates. Also, pretty uniformly, they'll claim that with modern practices, there's very little risk of getting sick if you're careful, and not riskier than buying pasteurized stuff from the store.

                And let me explicitly state this because some people on Lemmy seem to have reading comprehension issues: These are not my opinions and I'm not saying they are accurate, I do not drink raw milk, and I don't condone it, particularly if you're feeding it to unsuspecting people and children.

                Anecdotally, it seems like a good solid chunk of these folks eventually get sick enough or frequently enough from drinking raw milk that it's very common to find out 4 or 5 years down the line that they no longer drink raw milk. And that's just the ones who admit it, because I would not be surprised if it's even more common than I think -- a lot of people are too stubborn to switch back or too prideful to admit they were wrong.

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                Some do it because it's quicker or cheaper than a trip to the store (because they know the farmer, farmer lives close or delivers because farm is a friend/family member), and they're supporting local producers instead of giant conglomerates

                Fair point, my family has done this as well. However, I am not sure how much the us differs from German farmers. Here, the milk gets pumped and stored directly in a drum that warms it gently, pasteurizing it right after the milking. It is not yet homogenized, so you get the cream on top (and yes, that tastes different, fat is tasty).
                The only places where you might get "Udder-to-Table" might be the mountain farms, but I think even those pasteurize or use most "raw" milk immediately for cheesemaking

                However, I get the counter-culture argument, people want to be special

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                  Raw milk should be treated like ice cream - never let it get too warm, unless you’re pasteurizing or boiling it. Jesus Christ, these people.

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                  It's a shitpost

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                    No... just no. Milk has to be ice cold... Anything warmer is disgusting.

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                    Counterpoint: I’m seven years old and come home late from school and activities and there’s a cup on the table: I forgot to drink my milk that morning. I downed that warm smelly viscous white fluid and it was amazing.

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                      I wouldn't have guessed before this image that a hundred blueberries would fit in a dish that small.

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                      They might be wild blueberries which are smaller than regular ones.

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                        Some do it because it's quicker or cheaper than a trip to the store (because they know the farmer, farmer lives close or delivers because farm is a friend/family member), and they're supporting local producers instead of giant conglomerates

                        Fair point, my family has done this as well. However, I am not sure how much the us differs from German farmers. Here, the milk gets pumped and stored directly in a drum that warms it gently, pasteurizing it right after the milking. It is not yet homogenized, so you get the cream on top (and yes, that tastes different, fat is tasty).
                        The only places where you might get "Udder-to-Table" might be the mountain farms, but I think even those pasteurize or use most "raw" milk immediately for cheesemaking

                        However, I get the counter-culture argument, people want to be special

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                        I mean, I wasn't involved in the milking, I just bucked hay and tended the farm cats, but I'm pretty damn sure the milk on the family farm was pasteurized similarly (they're Swiss immigrants). You started milking when you were 12 and the farm sold when I was 10. We'd spend the equivalent of a couple months up there a year, a week or so at a time.

                        The taste everyone is trying to replicate that you "can't get" that's on farms, it's aluminum cups. Drink milk from aluminum cups. Tastes better.

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                        • R [email protected]

                          They might be wild blueberries which are smaller than regular ones.

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                          My neighbors have a specific cultivar of blueberry they grow, the berry itself is the size of a BB pellet. They are deliciously sweet and tart. Best blueberry I've ever had.

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                          • I [email protected]

                            What the hell is their fascination with raw milk?

                            Where I live in the USA, it's become a trendy thing amongst rural conservatives. If someone is talking about how they switched to raw milk, it's almost a guarantee they are MAGA supporters. Which is wild, because when I was growing up, it was almost the complete opposite. Raw milk was a "hippy" thing for fringe, counter-culture liberals.

                            My clearly biased opinion is that in this part of the US, drinking raw milk is at least partially a way to virtue signal and participate in the counter-culture. And when you think about it, drinking raw milk kind of actually makes sense in this context. It appeals to a lot of conservatives' cultural beliefs -- anti-science / mistrust of science, "rules for thee but not for me", and appeal to convention. Scientists are wrong. Nobody can tell me what I'm allowed to do. People drank raw milk for thousands of years and survived just fine.

                            Speculative opinion aside: The people I've met over the years who seek out raw milk have mentioned a number of different reasons.

                            Some say it tastes better than pasteurized milk. Some claim that raw milk is more nutritious than pasteurized because the heating process destroys or binds proteins, vitamins, immunity boosting components, etc in milk. Some do it because it's quicker or cheaper than a trip to the store (because they know the farmer, farmer lives close or delivers because farm is a friend/family member), and they're supporting local producers instead of giant conglomerates. Also, pretty uniformly, they'll claim that with modern practices, there's very little risk of getting sick if you're careful, and not riskier than buying pasteurized stuff from the store.

                            And let me explicitly state this because some people on Lemmy seem to have reading comprehension issues: These are not my opinions and I'm not saying they are accurate, I do not drink raw milk, and I don't condone it, particularly if you're feeding it to unsuspecting people and children.

                            Anecdotally, it seems like a good solid chunk of these folks eventually get sick enough or frequently enough from drinking raw milk that it's very common to find out 4 or 5 years down the line that they no longer drink raw milk. And that's just the ones who admit it, because I would not be surprised if it's even more common than I think -- a lot of people are too stubborn to switch back or too prideful to admit they were wrong.

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                            when I was growing up, it was almost the complete opposite. Raw milk was a "hippy" thing for fringe, counter-culture liberals.

                            Same with anti vax. Before COVID fear of vaccines was crunchy as fuck.

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                              Counterpoint: I’m seven years old and come home late from school and activities and there’s a cup on the table: I forgot to drink my milk that morning. I downed that warm smelly viscous white fluid and it was amazing.

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                              Bro. Stop.

                              I just...ugh.

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                                When you want/need 100 blueberries to pass through your system as fast as possible I guess.

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                                  I wouldn't have guessed before this image that a hundred blueberries would fit in a dish that small.

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                                  A cube of 100 is less than 5 to a side 😃

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                                    I don't care about raw milk or blueberries, but that upvote counter confused the hell out of me. I spent way too much time trying to figure out when I upvoted the image.

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                                      It's a shitpost

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                                      Well after a cup of that....there will most likely be shit

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                                        when I was growing up, it was almost the complete opposite. Raw milk was a "hippy" thing for fringe, counter-culture liberals.

                                        Same with anti vax. Before COVID fear of vaccines was crunchy as fuck.

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                                        The crunchy granolas have always been NIMBYs though.

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                                          When I was lifting, that's why some lifters would use raw milk for GOMAD. I was skeptical, as I'm sure GOMAD works because the overall amount of calories and high fat/protein content without having to think about other changes to your diet. I don't think those compounds would make much difference, if any.

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                                          All proteins, which include enzymes, are broken down into amino acids by your digestive system before being used to build new ones. Same goes for carbs and lipids.

                                          Shit, you don't just breakdown new protein intake, your body is constantly recycling the protein it already has.

                                          There's no bigger junk science manufacturing complex than fitness social media.

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