Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

agnos.is Forums

  1. Home
  2. Lemmy Shitpost
  3. A conundrum

A conundrum

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Lemmy Shitpost
lemmyshitpost
256 Posts 129 Posters 0 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • A [email protected]

    Mao did nothing wrong.

    D This user is from outside of this forum
    D This user is from outside of this forum
    [email protected]
    wrote last edited by
    #240

    except for causing that famine.

    A 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • J [email protected]

      Then there's all the expenses you didn't know about before you bought the house. If you don't have at least some DIY skills, you get to pay people a lot of money to fix things for you.

      ...BTW, the county just did a reassessment on your property and your property taxes have now doubled. In exchange, you get nothing. Congratulations.

      C This user is from outside of this forum
      C This user is from outside of this forum
      [email protected]
      wrote last edited by
      #241

      Also, the 500 is just the mortgage payment. It doesn't include the insurance and property taxes and, at least in the USA, private-mortgage-insurance (pmi) if the down payment isn't at least 20%.

      The monthly obligation can easily be more than that 1000. The savings is in locking the first half in at a set amount.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • joebigelow@lemmy.caJ [email protected]

        I am coming to realize that my rural perspective is pretty different, and that lots of people live in way higher cost of living areas than I do. My biggest suggestion is if you don't like expensive housing, get out of the city.

        xavier666@lemmy.umucat.dayX This user is from outside of this forum
        xavier666@lemmy.umucat.dayX This user is from outside of this forum
        [email protected]
        wrote last edited by
        #242

        If city folk starts coming to rural area, they will start complaining that city people are jacking up property prices.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • N [email protected]

          If you were in negative equity, you might choose to suck it up and pay.

          Statistically however, borrowers are much more likely to default when they're in negative equity, because quite obviously, there's an incentive to declare bankruptcy.

          If you owed a million dollars on a property that had been condemned and is only worth $50k, obviously you would declare bankruptcy. If the property was worth $400k you'd probably do the same. If the property was worth $800k you might do that, but you might choose to suck it up.

          My point is, negative equity is an incentive to default on the loan.

          Obviously, defaulting on mortgages is a thing. Obviously, people are much more likely to do so when they're in negative equity.

          This isn't something people do as a sophisticated well planned financial strategy. In a context of economic upheaval, declining property losses, usually because of unemployment, which usually causes family breakdowns.

          E This user is from outside of this forum
          E This user is from outside of this forum
          [email protected]
          wrote last edited by
          #243

          Obviously, defaulting on mortgages is a thing.

          In USA. As I explained in Europe it's not a thing. Own contribution is a thing in USA and Europe. Therefore, banks don't require own contribution because of defaults. Q.E.D.

          N 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • joebigelow@lemmy.caJ [email protected]

            I am coming to realize that my rural perspective is pretty different, and that lots of people live in way higher cost of living areas than I do. My biggest suggestion is if you don't like expensive housing, get out of the city.

            A This user is from outside of this forum
            A This user is from outside of this forum
            [email protected]
            wrote last edited by
            #244

            I tried and here are some places I have looked where the average home is $810,000 come to find out.

            Pinedale, Wyoming, USA
            Ennis, Montana, USA

            These are in the mountains about 1 hour from the nearest big city of Jackson, Wyoming and Bozeman, Montana. I guess I need to look in the deep sticks.

            joebigelow@lemmy.caJ 1 Reply Last reply
            1
            • E [email protected]

              Obviously, defaulting on mortgages is a thing.

              In USA. As I explained in Europe it's not a thing. Own contribution is a thing in USA and Europe. Therefore, banks don't require own contribution because of defaults. Q.E.D.

              N This user is from outside of this forum
              N This user is from outside of this forum
              [email protected]
              wrote last edited by
              #245

              What do you call it in Europe when someone stops making repayments on a loan ?

              Obviously, that's a thing.

              E 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • N [email protected]

                What do you call it in Europe when someone stops making repayments on a loan ?

                Obviously, that's a thing.

                E This user is from outside of this forum
                E This user is from outside of this forum
                [email protected]
                wrote last edited by
                #246

                I meant that intentionally defaulting on a mortgage when the property loses value and not paying the debt is not a thing. That's what we were talking about.

                N 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • joebigelow@lemmy.caJ [email protected]

                  Was it in a desirable location? Our tourist town went out of control with our of state buyers during the pandemic, but property values have adjusted back some and the market competition is gone. If you still have some of that $40k now might be a better time. My wife and I just did the federal First Time Homebuyers class and wound up getting a USDA rural development loan, they wouldn't even let us put a down payment to lower our payments.

                  I am a skidmark that cannot believe that I live in a house that I "own"(have a mortgage). And I am so much less pessimistic about anybody's potential to do what I did. I am happy to answer some questions. I make $22 an hour and my wife makes $17, the loan officer told me I almost make too much for the program.

                  ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI This user is from outside of this forum
                  ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI This user is from outside of this forum
                  [email protected]
                  wrote last edited by
                  #247

                  Yes, at the time, I was hoping to buy in the Salt Lake Valley and it just wasn't feasible. Thank you for the tip, I will read up on the USDA loans.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • N [email protected]

                    Foreclosing is a very expensive process.

                    If you borrow 100% of the purchase price and the bank has to foreclose they would incur a loss.

                    P This user is from outside of this forum
                    P This user is from outside of this forum
                    [email protected]
                    wrote last edited by
                    #248

                    Oh no, their own process that they made for being given a house is so expensive, I feel so bad for them!

                    Why are you defending them so hard? You just have to look at their quarterly financials. They're making out like gangbusters.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • D [email protected]

                      except for causing that famine.

                      A This user is from outside of this forum
                      A This user is from outside of this forum
                      [email protected]
                      wrote last edited by
                      #249

                      Eh, what's a little famine among friends.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • A [email protected]

                        I tried and here are some places I have looked where the average home is $810,000 come to find out.

                        Pinedale, Wyoming, USA
                        Ennis, Montana, USA

                        These are in the mountains about 1 hour from the nearest big city of Jackson, Wyoming and Bozeman, Montana. I guess I need to look in the deep sticks.

                        joebigelow@lemmy.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        joebigelow@lemmy.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        [email protected]
                        wrote last edited by
                        #250

                        Are you really confused why those properties are expensive? Those are both desirable locations in regions with quickly growing populations. How about Livingston, or Butte?

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                          if residential properties are cheaper per square foot than storage units, then absolutely

                          joebigelow@lemmy.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          joebigelow@lemmy.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          [email protected]
                          wrote last edited by
                          #251

                          Yep, that was a litmus test to determine if you're worth my effort. You failed.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          1
                          • ickplant@lemmy.worldI [email protected]
                            This post did not contain any content.
                            R This user is from outside of this forum
                            R This user is from outside of this forum
                            [email protected]
                            wrote last edited by
                            #252

                            Hmm. What if we abolish private property?

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • E [email protected]

                              I meant that intentionally defaulting on a mortgage when the property loses value and not paying the debt is not a thing. That's what we were talking about.

                              N This user is from outside of this forum
                              N This user is from outside of this forum
                              [email protected]
                              wrote last edited by
                              #253

                              Who is more likely to default, a borrower with $100k equity, or a borrower with negative $100k equity?

                              E 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • N [email protected]

                                Who is more likely to default, a borrower with $100k equity, or a borrower with negative $100k equity?

                                E This user is from outside of this forum
                                E This user is from outside of this forum
                                [email protected]
                                wrote last edited by
                                #254

                                Read my other comments. I answered this already.

                                N 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • E [email protected]

                                  Read my other comments. I answered this already.

                                  N This user is from outside of this forum
                                  N This user is from outside of this forum
                                  [email protected]
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #255

                                  Read my other comments, explaining why people with negative equity often default on their mortgage.

                                  E 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • N [email protected]

                                    Read my other comments, explaining why people with negative equity often default on their mortgage.

                                    E This user is from outside of this forum
                                    E This user is from outside of this forum
                                    [email protected]
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #256

                                    Not in Europe.

                                    (this is fun. let's keep doing this forever!)

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    Reply
                                    • Reply as topic
                                    Log in to reply
                                    • Oldest to Newest
                                    • Newest to Oldest
                                    • Most Votes


                                    • Login

                                    • Login or register to search.
                                    • First post
                                      Last post
                                    0
                                    • Categories
                                    • Recent
                                    • Tags
                                    • Popular
                                    • World
                                    • Users
                                    • Groups