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    I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn't been there (which they were) they'd undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That's a hell of a way to lose a parent.

    The fact that he died while in the middle of talking about trans mass shooters being a huge problem certainly makes it feel like cosmic karma at work. I struggle to give a shit about the man himself being shot dead. But I do worry about political violence... it's a very rare occasion when murdering someone sitting in a chair talking is a good idea. Not a single person in his right-wing sphere of repugnance is going to do any self-reflection and change their ways, they'll just become even more rabidly anti-everything left of Hitler. Shit like this doesn't go unanswered too often. Violence is a contagion with no cure except time, and the clock gets set back another decade every time someone retaliates. I'm sure we could chain all of these assassinations together into a causal sequence. But even if they're all independent events, the narrative-makers will be hard at work making it sound like a grand battle of the ages, so the result is the same either way.

    Source: History, memory...

    P.S. Any bets that the shooter was a MAGA nut? Seems to be the trend 👀

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        So not a full Marvin, from pulp fiction?

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        No, Marvin got it in the skull and had hydrostatic shock. Charlie got a long distance tracheotomy.

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          Don't worry. This is the casus belli that the Guardians Of Pedophiles have been trying to force for months. As much as I love California, I think it's time to head back to BC. Things are about to get much worse in the US.

          My advice to anyone else that isn't prepared to fight for survival is to find a way out now. You don't have long.

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          This is the casus belli that the Guardians Of Pedophiles have been trying to force for months.

          I don’t know. It’s not quite right. Utah is God’s Country. They’re looking for something in Los Angeles, Chicago, DC. The liberal hellholes.

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            Hi guys! Just because he was an awful person doesn't mean he deserves to die. I am actually horrified by how many people are condoning this, especially when this man has a family and a wife and it's not even like trump when it would have actually done anything for our country. all this has done has made a gigantic fuss and give fox news rage bait.

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              have empathy for his children, who didn't ask to be born into this

              and uh I guess that's about it

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              Empathy for the bullet too.

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                That depends on who is emboldened by the news.

                Right-wingers might "good riddance, I got mine"

                Left-wingers might "hey, we could get democracy back"

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                You can't murder your way into democracy.

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                  I was just thinking about that. Someone will whine about empathy sooner or later and I've come up with what I think is a pretty good response, feel free to use it if you agree.

                  I've been putting up with their hateful shit for most of my life, exactly how many years of that are required before I'm allowed to have an empty empathy tank for them?

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                  A friend is aghast at how I can react the way I do. My response is "do you think these 'just opinions' exist in a void?"

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                  • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                    Well fuck. Now I have to actually have empathy for his death or he will get what he wants. 😭

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                    Eh, we can start tomorrow.

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                      Wikipedia editors already 'was'ed all his 'is's 😂

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                        Thank you. You're a friend though, you don't have to use my full name. Just call me "Ass".

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                          Fucking stupid move. If he survives, he'll be a hero, if he dies, he'll be a martyr.

                          Well, a martyr he is...

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                          I don't think anybody thinks the United Healthcare CEO was a martyr, why would it be different here?

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                            You can't murder your way into democracy.

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                            The infrastructure for democracy is already there. It's just been shelved temporarily by the current admin.

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                            • djdarren@sopuli.xyzD [email protected]

                              Meanwhile, your "working class" is armed to the teeth and fascism is still running amok.

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                              The left is notoriously unarmed while the right is the reason our gun ownership is so high. At a time when the right threatens to take more and more away, this feels like a poor choice. Personally I agree with a very prominent leftist that the working class must be armed, and I feel that as those on the left we need to see the writing on the wall. The united states does not appear to be going a more peaceful direction, and if we want to keep having any rights for the workers at all we need to be ready to frustrate any attempt to disarm or otherwise neutralize us. In a world where the right does not threaten to take guns from trans folks or keep us from using our right to organize, we can talk about gun control again. Sadly we are sliding away from that so fast that I can't imagine where we will be at the end of this presidency.

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                                This is the casus belli that the Guardians Of Pedophiles have been trying to force for months.

                                I don’t know. It’s not quite right. Utah is God’s Country. They’re looking for something in Los Angeles, Chicago, DC. The liberal hellholes.

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                                "The shooter visited California once, where they were radicalized by the violent left."
                                "The shooter owned an iPhone, which is designed by Apple in California. The violent leftists are responsible."
                                "Liberals, who constantly demonize conservative speech, are responsible!"

                                There need not be any actual ties to Los Angeles, Chicago, or DC. They can cut any narrative they like from whole cloth. Denying reality and substituting their own is the rightist way.

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                                • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                                  If taser training includes being tased, gun training should include being shot.

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                                  That's pretty extreme. Also you can buy a taser without training in the US, so your point doesn't even stand.

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                                    Aaaand this is how I found out. Good riddance!

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                                    I found out from a clip wife showed me. Got no clue who he was but he was surrounded by MAGA hats.

                                    Boy that was a lot of blood!

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                                      Hi guys! Just because he was an awful person doesn't mean he deserves to die. I am actually horrified by how many people are condoning this, especially when this man has a family and a wife and it's not even like trump when it would have actually done anything for our country. all this has done has made a gigantic fuss and give fox news rage bait.

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                                      TIL Fox news trolls lemmy to look for rage bait. /s

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                                        have empathy for his children, who didn't ask to be born into this

                                        and uh I guess that's about it

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                                        nah, those kids are definitely gonna privately celebrate. i know i did when my horrible dad died

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                                          You don't have to like him, but jeez people in here are messed up. I'm a little surprised that so many people are celebrating an ideological assassination. Democracy literally cannot survive if opinions are punishable by death, and that alone should be soundly condemned.

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