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What is something that should have died out a long time ago?

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    Fossil fuel subsidies. No longer needed since we have more viable alternatives, and they just contribute to global warming, and litter.

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    I'm not sure that's true.

    The supply chain for food is heavily dependent on diesel. All machinery on farms is diesel, and the trucks that move the food to silos then mills then factories and then shops are all diesel.

    Presently there's no real substitute for that machinery. Sure it might be technically possible to construct an electric tractor or truck but it's not economically viable at this time.

    The subsidies don't really serve to make fossil fuels continue to be viable, it's more like a measure to avoid sudden inflation due to fluctuations in the price of diesel.

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      Internal combustion engines.. We just don't need them anymore.

      Their continued use really only measures up to hubris.

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      I just posted this in response to another idiot, but it works here too:

      I'm not sure that's true.

      The supply chain for food is heavily dependent on diesel. All machinery on farms is diesel, and the trucks that move the food to silos then mills then factories and then shops are all diesel.

      Presently there's no real substitute for that machinery. Sure it might be technically possible to construct an electric tractor or truck but it's not economically viable at this time.

      The subsidies don't really serve to make fossil fuels continue to be viable, it's more like a measure to avoid sudden inflation due to fluctuations in the price of diesel.

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      • B [email protected]

        That's not true. Sure, we have tribalism, but there's no reason it has to be about race. It could be about religion, politics, country of origin, and countless other things

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        Sports. Watch the crowds in some European soccer or basketball matches and you'll see how we managed to keep tribalism alive and well, but (mostly) harmless.

        (You need stadiums that can handle tens of thousands of people bouncing on the stands for ninety minutes without collapsing, though.)

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          We did address it. And then everyone immediately changed how they pronounced every vowel.

          What do you mean? The Great Vowel Shift happened well before any standardisation of spelling I'm aware of. And there's plenty of problems beyond just the vowels.

          French is probably number two on the shit list, but there's at least a consistent pattern there.

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          The printing press, and more importantly the people running them, codified spelling toward the beginning of the Shift. I may have implied more intent than actually existed but spelling became a lot more standardized with the mass production of written works, particularly the bible.

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            It just means abandoning the idea of a "correct spelling".

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              Fossil fuel subsidies. No longer needed since we have more viable alternatives, and they just contribute to global warming, and litter.

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              farm subsidies too, the only reason they are even here is because its a large voting block.

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                July and August
                Add them to the end of the calendar or rename them properly, there is no reason September-December should have been globally accepted out of order for over 2000 years

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                • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                  You know, I actually don't think it'll be a good idea to kill people who are only powerful because they can talk. The more I think about it, the more I think they'll be turned into martyrs by their followers. It'll only embolden them.

                  So, something that really upsets the world in a tangible way would be...

                  Shooting more CEOs. And bankers.

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                  😬🫥

                  I would be inclined to believe you, looking at these protests and manifestations that happened in London after the Kirk shooting. Scary works right now.

                  I still want to believe we live in a world where there are more welcoming people than there are hostile people. Otherwise the world is truly lost.

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                    Humans organised by hierarchy.

                    It never works and always ends with civilisations that ever attempt it collapsing. No matter how often we do the same dumb shit over and over it never works.. Are we insane anons ?

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                      Electricity

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                        @chunes Rupert Murdoch.

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                          Why? Do you know him?

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                          Huh? No. I was gonna make the suicide joke. They got here first so I won't make the same joke.

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                            Fair point. No one can be sure about there being anything after death. For me it's like the safest and most logical bet that there won't be anything. All other 'options' come across a lot like wishful thinking. No one is going to believe in anything that doesn't fit their own narrative.
                            Personally, I would not be able to believe Santa Claus is real, so why would I believe in anything supernatural? I'd rather find answers in science.
                            Also, the idea of there being eternal life after death would just terrify me. It would be the most boring and useless way to spend time. It is the notion of my time being limited that gives it value. When time is unlimited, everything loses meaning.

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                            I hear you. But then does the existence of some sort of higher purpose/unknown science necessarily imply everlasting life?

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                            • hanrahan@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                              Humans organised by hierarchy.

                              It never works and always ends with civilisations that ever attempt it collapsing. No matter how often we do the same dumb shit over and over it never works.. Are we insane anons ?

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                              Oh we definitely are. We already have had so many profound human beings that to live well all that is needed is just listen to them and apply what they have said. But no, people choose to do dumb shit yet again and again

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                                I'm not sure that's true.

                                The supply chain for food is heavily dependent on diesel. All machinery on farms is diesel, and the trucks that move the food to silos then mills then factories and then shops are all diesel.

                                Presently there's no real substitute for that machinery. Sure it might be technically possible to construct an electric tractor or truck but it's not economically viable at this time.

                                The subsidies don't really serve to make fossil fuels continue to be viable, it's more like a measure to avoid sudden inflation due to fluctuations in the price of diesel.

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                                🤣🤣🤣🤣
                                There are dozens of companies making electric tractors, AND in a rural area it is much more viable to have solar panels than to rely on the next diesel delivery, or make long trips to the nearest filling station.

                                Areas with solar panels are even posting higher crop yields.

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                                  I just posted this in response to another idiot, but it works here too:

                                  I'm not sure that's true.

                                  The supply chain for food is heavily dependent on diesel. All machinery on farms is diesel, and the trucks that move the food to silos then mills then factories and then shops are all diesel.

                                  Presently there's no real substitute for that machinery. Sure it might be technically possible to construct an electric tractor or truck but it's not economically viable at this time.

                                  The subsidies don't really serve to make fossil fuels continue to be viable, it's more like a measure to avoid sudden inflation due to fluctuations in the price of diesel.

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                                  Actually there is..
                                  Like i said before there are many high quality electric tractors. I have even seen so many farmers even convert their old tractors to electric in response to John Deere's shitty policies.

                                  Farm equipment doesn't care what is is run on.

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                                    Gnats. And flies.

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                                    • hanrahan@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                                      Humans organised by hierarchy.

                                      It never works and always ends with civilisations that ever attempt it collapsing. No matter how often we do the same dumb shit over and over it never works.. Are we insane anons ?

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                                      It works in communities of around 100 people, like those human evolved in. Which is why this is our default organization structure, every form of government devolves to sooner or later. Maybe we should give up the idea of countries or at least try to keep it in check with smart laws somehow.

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                                        Actually there is..
                                        Like i said before there are many high quality electric tractors. I have even seen so many farmers even convert their old tractors to electric in response to John Deere's shitty policies.

                                        Farm equipment doesn't care what is is run on.

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                                        Even if that were true they're not presently in common use. Agriculture presently runs on diesel.

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                                          Huh? No. I was gonna make the suicide joke. They got here first so I won't make the same joke.

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                                          But instead I made one.

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