Seriously what's that idea?
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But they are leaving you alone
But they're really not though, if they're commenting on your post, whether or not you can see it
wrote last edited by [email protected]When you have blocked someone, and they comment on your post, do they come to your front door and start yelling?
Are they standing across the road with a large, vulgar sign?
Do you get a phone call?
Do you in any way get notified?
Can you even see their comment?
If you answer "no" to the above, then you are left alone. They are no longer your concern. If you're still concerned, then that's a problem in your head.
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They shouldn't be able to do that!
Here's how I frame it to myself: that person is basically screaming into the void after I block them. Sure, other people on here can see what they wrote, but 99.9% of them won't care or remember. I was their "intended target" and I'll never see their stupid comment. If it makes you feel any better, I've noticed a lot of troll types really hate being blocked and complain about it fairly regularly. You blocked them, you won the peace of them no longer existing for you.
Also, if you've blocked them for being obnoxious, others probably have, too.
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But they can still mock you without you witnessing.
Oh no! The potential that someone is mocking me, behind my back, without me witnessing or knowing it, really keeps me awake at night!
I mean, really. If you've gone so far as to block someone, do you even care that they're mocking you?
If so, why? And are you aware that someone can mock you, or spread crap about you behind your back, without explicitly needing the ability to comment on your threads?
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They shouldn't be able to do that!
Hopefully people migrating from lemmy to Piefed eventually fixes a lot of these core issues.
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My experience is, I see that there's a comment, I can't read it, I can't upvote or downvote it, and I couldn't report it, wonderful!
wrote last edited by [email protected]What you are asking for is closer to something like being able to personally ban another user from all your own content.
This would be more like if you made all your comments and posts in your own personal community, and then banned a user from it.
This, your suggested paradigm, can also be entirely defeated by someone just... making another account.
Or even: Logging out, and viewing as a guest.
Closer to message board styled systems are not twitter, are not instagram.
If you wanna try to develop something like a 'private profile' mode for lemmy, where you would have to grant access to every individual user you wanted to be able to see your posts and comments, good luck, go for it, code's open source, best I can tell, all dev work on it is unpaid, volunteers.
I am reasonably confident this is basically impossible given how lemmy is architected, but hey, maybe I'm wrong.
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What I'd really like is if comment downvotes were public.
Edit: Thanks to Optional, here are the users who downvoted this comment (also lists users who upvoted).
You just have to enable it in your client, presuming your instance supports it.
On Voyager it’s in Settings -> Appearance -> Other -> Display Votes -> Separate.
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They shouldn't be able to do that!
My only gripe is that the blocked comment’s replies are also not visible. I want to see what everyone else is saying, even if they’re replying to a blocked user. I just don’t care what the blocked user says.
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Some users would write their reply and then quickly block the other person so their points couldn't be contested.
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They shouldn't be able to do that!
Practically speaking, there's no good way around it. If you could block them seeing you, they could just make another account to follow you with.
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For anyone wondering how the blocking feature has been weaponized to spread misinformation, in 2022 a redditor did an experiment: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/sdcsx3/testing_reddits_new_block_feature_and_its_effects/
Afaik, the blocking feature is still in the same state as in 2022, which makes modern reddit a heaven for spreading misinformation.
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Hopefully people migrating from lemmy to Piefed eventually fixes a lot of these core issues.
I didn't particularly hade or love Piefed. I have an account and i also have saved there a community about to be lost when lemm.ee is gone offline. That said, I still feel more comfortable using Lemmy. Maybe is just a matter of habits.
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I didn't particularly hade or love Piefed. I have an account and i also have saved there a community about to be lost when lemm.ee is gone offline. That said, I still feel more comfortable using Lemmy. Maybe is just a matter of habits.
But its developed by Tankies who wish you and others immediate harm, so definitely a risky longterm strat.
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This is why I don’t block, I just passively ignore.
I want to watch idiots shout into the void. No interaction, no downvotes, nothing. Their impotent rage makes me smile as I move on. That’s my fetish.
wrote last edited by [email protected]There was a forum I used to lurk on. I hardly ever posted, but there were still some posters who were so annoying that I had to block them anyway, to not get aggravated while reading the good posters. In fact I remember now, it was worse than that. The forum software for some reason only let you block a maximum of 10 accounts at a time, and there were far more than 10 annoying posting accounts (though maybe fewer people behind them) at any given time. I ended up having to write my own software to ignore enough accounts. I had first resisted ignoring, but once I gave in to the feature, I went nuts with it and it was great.
That was a really good forum that became useless when trolls overran it. The owners fixed it by charging a one-time $5(?) fee to get an account (existing users didn't have to pay). If they banned a troll account, they couldn't really stop the troll from paying up to join again, but few bothered doing that. So that worked quite well and was a big relief. Not counting the trolls, it was an intense and nerdy forum that legitimate participants didn't mind paying to join. It was eventually shut down with its archives deleted even though the parent site is still around. I don't know why they did that and I think its archives could have some significant historical value. Oh well.
Edit: I may be mis-remembering how the fee worked. It might be that you had to be a paying member of the parent site, since I do remember sending money, though that might have been to access some unrelated site features.
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They shouldn't be able to do that!
This is like putting up a tall fence to obscure the view of your neighbors and being surprised they don't cease existing on the other side
You don't want to just block users, you want to unilaterally ban them
There's a difference between fair and just
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This is like putting up a tall fence to obscure the view of your neighbors and being surprised they don't cease existing on the other side
You don't want to just block users, you want to unilaterally ban them
There's a difference between fair and just
wrote last edited by [email protected]I want to stop them from engaging with me. I don't want to let them keep engaging with me without my ability to see what they're saying.
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Give persecuted minorities a way to protect themselves.
This comes from discussions I've had with minorities about the harassment they face on Lemmy and mastodon, and the currentblockmute feature is more harmful than helpful.If you're using "block" to curate your content, then it works great. If you're trying to prevent harassment, then it's counterproductive
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It... Makes perfect sense?
YOU blocked them. They didn't block you.
It's like when you were a kid and told to ignore the kid bullying you; except that it actually works.
If I block them, I want to stop them from engaging with me.
I don't want to let them continue to engage with me and other people in my comments, but just lose my ability to see what they're saying about me.
That's like saying the purpose of a locked door isn't to keep people out, it's to prevent you from seeing what they're doing in your house
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They shouldn't be able to do that!
It's The Sixth Sense, you're the wife and they're Bruce Willis. Just get on with your life
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I'd call what you're describing "muting" rather than blocking.
I used to agree with you, but then I spoke with some people from persecuted minorities, and this style of blocking just gives power to their abusers rather than keeping their communities and themselves safe.
Yes they can get a new account, but it's another hurdle, and if we erect enough hurdles then it'll catch enough of them. Defense in depth.
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Blocking means you can't see them. It makes them non existent to you. It doesn't hide you from them. It's working as intended.
I'd call that "muting" rather than blocking.
And it leaves vulnerable communities open to abuse, because they're unable to police their communities and kick out harassers.
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I want to stop them from engaging with me. I don't want to let them keep engaging with me without my ability to see what they're saying.
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Give persecuted minorities a way to protect themselves.
This comes from discussions I've had with minorities about the harassment they face on Lemmy and mastodon, and the currentblockmute feature is more harmful than helpful.If you're using "block" to curate your content, then it works great. If you're trying to prevent harassment, then it's counterproductive
wrote last edited by [email protected]If you care what they are saying, you shouldn't block them. If you don't care, you shouldn't care they are commenting on you.
I don't want other people being able to hide criticism of their posts/comments they don't like from me. Allowing you to completely block engagement with your posts would just strengthen echo chambers and bolster misinformation IMO.
