'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash
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Say it with me now: "Fuck Randy Pitchford"
UE5 is a shit engine as of now, but what can be expected of a company run by someone just as insufferable? Epic took the advent of tech like DLSS and frame generation as an excuse to disregard performance and functionality.
All you have to do is pick out any UE5 game that exists and Google that + "performance." Even meeting the recommended specs for Rogue City, I still had to find specialized configs to get the game the game stop crashing on launch, and even then, those specs were based on using upscaling and frame generation. In reality, "recommended" was about 25fps at 1280x720. That used to be, and realistically should be unthinkable.
AND EVEN THEN, the engine's built-in settings for upscaling and frame generation caused even more crashing. Ultimately, I had to disable it in-game and turn it on in my driver settings because of the busted-ass engine. This is a problem with the state of gaming, and people like Randy, Tim and their supporters are only exacerbating it.
wrote last edited by [email protected]The engine's not the problem. Personally, I have only played a single game on UE5 that had shit performance on my aging PC (I can't even use DLSS), and it's an early access, independently made, survival crafting game. It was never going to perform well or even be finished.
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I accepted and just didn’t buy it to begin with.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Was going to say... Who is out there buying games way outside their machines' specs? Seems pretty straightforward.
I do get a little annoyed at the folks angry at BL4 using a higher end engine. Like, it does look a lot better than previous iterations. That engine upgrade wasn't for nothing.
There are a ton of looter shooters floating around that aren't using the Unreal 5 engine. Just play one of those instead. Hell, go back and play BL1. I'm pretty sure that thing runs on a toaster.
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Just your typical Randy drama you get at every BL release.
At least he didn't punch anyone this time.
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All this stuff sounds like Randy Pitchford building out his personal brand.
I wish anything involving Pitchford was not reported on (at all).
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Was going to say... Who is out there buying games way outside their machines' specs? Seems pretty straightforward.
I do get a little annoyed at the folks angry at BL4 using a higher end engine. Like, it does look a lot better than previous iterations. That engine upgrade wasn't for nothing.
There are a ton of looter shooters floating around that aren't using the Unreal 5 engine. Just play one of those instead. Hell, go back and play BL1. I'm pretty sure that thing runs on a toaster.
wrote last edited by [email protected]This game goes into the twenties on a freaking 4070 at 1440 on high settings and doesn't even get 60 at medium settings
Now let's take a look at the "recommended specs" Randy put out there
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 / AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT / Intel Arc B580
Sorry but when in the world is that even remotely acceptable that you consider last Gen was outside machine specs when the developers said sure two generations ago is perfectly fine, which btw, holy crap it's not.
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At least he didn't punch anyone this time.
wrote last edited by [email protected]True, no physical punches just metaphoric ones to every gamer right in the genitals with his BS yet again.
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I accepted and just didn’t buy it to begin with.
After the borderlands 3 trainwreck it seems weird that people are apparently buying BL4
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At least he didn't punch anyone this time.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Nor did he leave a USB stick containing sensitive design data and camgirl porn at a Medieval Times
Things are looking up for ol' Randy
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I swear I have no idea why they let him talk. He doesn't even own the company, surely someone at 2K could just go... you know... shush.
I don't even think the BL4 thing is that bad, on the face of it. There is really no need to make it worse.
"We have been made aware of some performance issues in certain systems in our new release, we'll be looking into performance improvements in future patches". It's not that hard. At this point just copy/paste whatever the other thousand UE5 games said, go fix the wonky precompilation boot step and stop digging a hole.
Hell, it's even easier than that, because they have actually pretty much put that out. All he really needed to do was shut up about it.
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How is it on console though? Better on PS5 or Xbox?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Take from that what you will.
Nothing from digital foundry yet.
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After the borderlands 3 trainwreck it seems weird that people are apparently buying BL4
It's hard to consider an 81 on OpenCritic to be a trainwreck. People tend to buy games that review well, especially when it's a co-op shooter with basically no competition.
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BL4 is running horribly, even on higher end PCs. I have a 4090 and a decent processor, but only getting 80FPS max with a good few settings on low or off and AI frame gen on (I would rather not, but performance is just that bad).
Holy shit you get 80 fps with frame gen on with a 4090? What resolution?
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How is it on console though? Better on PS5 or Xbox?
I've seen multiple people report they have to reboot after an hour or two or play because it has memory leak issues.
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It's hard to consider an 81 on OpenCritic to be a trainwreck. People tend to buy games that review well, especially when it's a co-op shooter with basically no competition.
Damn I had to look that up cause it seemed unbelievable. I am shocked it reviewed that well. It just seemed so awful to me.
Am I so out of touch?? No, the children are.
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Damn I had to look that up cause it seemed unbelievable. I am shocked it reviewed that well. It just seemed so awful to me.
Am I so out of touch?? No, the children are.
Nah, that game's great. The writing's not good, especially for the villains, but people like that game because it's good.
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Holy shit you get 80 fps with frame gen on with a 4090? What resolution?
2560 × 1440
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Take from that what you will.
Nothing from digital foundry yet.
DF is who I'm waiting on, but from what I'm hearing, they didn't send reviewer codes so it's all delayed and that's never a good sign.
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Was going to say... Who is out there buying games way outside their machines' specs? Seems pretty straightforward.
I do get a little annoyed at the folks angry at BL4 using a higher end engine. Like, it does look a lot better than previous iterations. That engine upgrade wasn't for nothing.
There are a ton of looter shooters floating around that aren't using the Unreal 5 engine. Just play one of those instead. Hell, go back and play BL1. I'm pretty sure that thing runs on a toaster.
There’s a difference between a game being way outside of your specs because it’s graphically very advanced and your hardware is old, and a game just being unoptimized slop that expects its users to deal with by throwing higher specs at a fixable problem.
I have a brand new 5070ti that can play all kinds of UE5 games with much better graphics than BL4 at 4k resolution with ray tracing at a decent frame rate without relying on frame gen. And I’m in the top few percentiles here.
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You got it!
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2560 × 1440
Holy fuck that is so much worse than I realized it was. What a joke.
