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Young climate activist tells Greenpeace to drop ‘old-fashioned’ anti-nuclear stance

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    Good!

    Anti-nuclear is like anti-GMO and anti-vax: pure ignorance, and fear of that which they don't understand.

    Nuclear power is the ONLY form of clean energy that can be scaled up in time to save us from the worst of climate change.

    We've had the cure for climate change all along, but fear that we'd do another Chernobyl has scared us away from it.

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    imagine how much farther ahead we would be in safety and efficiency if it was made priority 50 years ago.

    we still have whole swathes of people who think that because its not perfect now, it cant be perfected ever.

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      imagine how much farther ahead we would be in safety and efficiency if it was made priority 50 years ago.

      we still have whole swathes of people who think that because its not perfect now, it cant be perfected ever.

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      So uh, turns out the energy companies are not exactly the most moral and rule abiding entities, and they love to pay off politicians and cut corners. How does one prevent that, as in the case of fission it has rather dire consequences?

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        So uh, turns out the energy companies are not exactly the most moral and rule abiding entities, and they love to pay off politicians and cut corners. How does one prevent that, as in the case of fission it has rather dire consequences?

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        I mean it's not the companies operating the facilities we put our trust in, but the outside regulators whose job it is to ensure these facilities are safe and meet a certain standard. As well as the engineers and scientists that design these systems.

        Nuclear power isn't 100% safe or risk-free, but it's hella effective and leaps and bounds better than fossil fuels. We can embrace nuclear, renewables and fossil free methods, or just continue burning the world.

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          I mean it's not the companies operating the facilities we put our trust in, but the outside regulators whose job it is to ensure these facilities are safe and meet a certain standard. As well as the engineers and scientists that design these systems.

          Nuclear power isn't 100% safe or risk-free, but it's hella effective and leaps and bounds better than fossil fuels. We can embrace nuclear, renewables and fossil free methods, or just continue burning the world.

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          The worst nuclear disaster has led to 1,000sq miles of land being unsafe for human inhabitants.

          Using fossil fuels for power is destroying of the entire planet.

          It's really not that complicated.

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            The worst nuclear disaster has led to 1,000sq miles of land being unsafe for human inhabitants.

            Using fossil fuels for power is destroying of the entire planet.

            It's really not that complicated.

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            Except that nuclear isn't the only, or even the cheapest, alternative to fossil fuels.

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              Nuclear energy is a terrible idea in both a physically (climate change) and socially destabilizing world.

              Even Gen4 proliferation-resistant reactors still represent a lethal threat in the event of a release of fissionable materials into the local environment. Building a nuclear reactor without a cast-iron guarantee that there will be a supply of engineering staff, components, materials and clear strong regulation to keep it running safely is a surefire path to disaster.

              Whilst the technology and physics behind it are well understood, we have shown time and again in a few short decades of utilizing this technology that we lack the responsibility in our administrative structures to properly manage the risks.

              It would take just one full-on reactor meltdown or disaster to poison an entire continent. We have consistently demonstrated that we cannot responsibly assume that risk, which is why there is opposition to nuclear power.

              If you want to avoid bad things from happening, do not deploy a dangerous technology and instead focus on what we can do. Renewables are more than capable of providing for our energy needs, and the big kicker here is that they can do so without putting the literal power "off" switch in the hands of the grid or plant operator.

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                Except that nuclear isn't the only, or even the cheapest, alternative to fossil fuels.

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                If solar was used everywhere then it would also require a large investment in batteries to power stuff in the night
                There's pros and cons for everything and probably the best solution is to have several green energy sources, solar, wind, nuclear ect.

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                  Good!

                  Anti-nuclear is like anti-GMO and anti-vax: pure ignorance, and fear of that which they don't understand.

                  Nuclear power is the ONLY form of clean energy that can be scaled up in time to save us from the worst of climate change.

                  We've had the cure for climate change all along, but fear that we'd do another Chernobyl has scared us away from it.

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                  I heard a bit from a podcast that stuck with me:

                  ALL Energy is nuclear energy-

                  The sun is a nuclear power source.

                  Plants absorb that nuclear energy and whether we eat them, or eat animals that ate them, that is still energy from a nuclear source.

                  Some of those plants ended up rotting for millenia underground, and we dig that up, now in the form of coal, oil or natural gasses- then burn it...thats still just nuclear power.

                  Even the wind is nuclear power, as is its mostly caused by the uneven heating of the air by the sun, as the earth rotates, leading to the creation of higher and lower pressure areas.

                  The podcast (which was about solar energy- i work for a solar panel company, thats why it was on in the work van, lol) went on to say that logically, nuclear, solar, to an extent wind are therefore the best ways to 'generate/ harvest' power- everything else is just laundering nuclear energy through an inefficient, and usually destructive battery.

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                    So uh, turns out the energy companies are not exactly the most moral and rule abiding entities, and they love to pay off politicians and cut corners. How does one prevent that, as in the case of fission it has rather dire consequences?

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                    Force the Board of directors to live in close proximity to the plant

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                      That's a big no from me dog. I barely trust the government as it is, no way I'll trust them with nuclear power plants. And besides we have vastly better options such as solar.

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                        That's a big no from me dog. I barely trust the government as it is, no way I'll trust them with nuclear power plants. And besides we have vastly better options such as solar.

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                        I read the 2 year old headline as 'unless green peace arms itself, countries will never take the environment seriously.

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