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Don't fix the problem just change the parameters

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  • F [email protected]

    Teacher here.

    I'm pretty certain that the only place where my students ever encounter an analog clock is at school.

    What the actual fuck? Are you not using wrist watches at all at whatever US hole you are a teacher at? Because most of these are analogue.

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    Why would you use a wristwatch tho?

    And I'm saying this as a European

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      Nah let's ditch the analog clocks and instead teach them sundials. That will really stretch their brains.

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      Analog clocks are mechanical imitations of sun dials. Ever wondered why clockwise is the way it is? It's because the sun moved that way (on the historically a bit more dominant northern hemisphere)

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        I think removing everything that kids have a bit of a hard time trying to grasp just teaches kids to give up if anything isn't immediately apparent. Its not as much of a waste of time as cursive, and it's to be taught to think in another way.

        I think that kids "learning how to learn" is really important, especially with how these AI models are stunting like a whole generation of people.

        This is minor,
        but I also think less things need electronic displays/components that are hard to recycle and increase dependency on exploiting X country for Y resource. Its also cool to just be able to build a physical mechanism which digital clocks have no real feasible option to do

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        I just found out my 10yo has been lagging behind in spelling because he's been using speech-to-text on his school issued iPad for class work. He doesn't have to think about it or try sounding it out, so of course an unpracticed in-development skill is waning. It's going to be an interesting parent-teacher meeting coming up.

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        • D [email protected]

          One part of me wants to feel disappointed that kids aren't learning to read analog clocks, but another part of me thinks there was a time when people grew disappointed that the younger generations stopped learning to use an abacus in favor of digital calculators. I certainly don't want some old geezer giving me shit because I don't want to learn to use an abacus. I also don't want to be that old geezer.

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          *sigh* everyone always forgets about slide rules.

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            My highschool was small (graduating class under 50; five small towns combined), and in the 90s, ours were synchronized, just realized I always wondered what they used.

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            Probably the clocks all used a synchronous motor. It spins baaed on ac current. After juat set the clocks to the right time when you plig them in

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              I think removing everything that kids have a bit of a hard time trying to grasp just teaches kids to give up if anything isn't immediately apparent. Its not as much of a waste of time as cursive, and it's to be taught to think in another way.

              I think that kids "learning how to learn" is really important, especially with how these AI models are stunting like a whole generation of people.

              This is minor,
              but I also think less things need electronic displays/components that are hard to recycle and increase dependency on exploiting X country for Y resource. Its also cool to just be able to build a physical mechanism which digital clocks have no real feasible option to do

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              Its also cool to just be able to build a physical mechanism which digital clocks have no real feasible option to do

              i am delighted to be able to introduce you to flip clocks.

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              • H [email protected]

                Analogue clocks are a great example of kids having to understand a concept and apply it. And it's simple enough that anyone can learn it.

                I often see examples where children are required to memorize a set solution, instead of showing understanding and reaching the solutions themselves.

                These clocks are somewhat dated, but removing them just feels like another symptom of a failing educational system.

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                I remember getting a compliment more then once jn school. I was good t talong what i learned in once class and applying it to another

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                • joel_feila@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                  Probably the clocks all used a synchronous motor. It spins baaed on ac current. After juat set the clocks to the right time when you plig them in

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                  Thank you, I’ll need to look into it, it was obvious they were synced because they got adjusted for daylight savings from somewhere and they all slowly changed time over the course of an hour if I recall correctly, it always fascinated me.

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                  • juliebean@lemmy.zipJ [email protected]

                    *sigh* everyone always forgets about slide rules.

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                    Beat me to it. If only my dad had saves his

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                    • joel_feila@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                      Probably the clocks all used a synchronous motor. It spins baaed on ac current. After juat set the clocks to the right time when you plig them in

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                      Would that not mean if the power goes out after say a hurricane, the all the clocks have to be reset manually or can they somehow change them all remotely? A mechanism going threw the walls to change them from a single location sounds like a lot of work to get a synchronized clock

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                        Are you from the US? I'm completely amazed that there are counties we you are almost never exposed to analog clocks. I'm from Europe and analog clocks are everywhere. Every train station, public buildings, churches, clock towers, homes, wrist watches. Heck we even have tons of (but more because of esthetics instead of serious time keeping) sun dials on walls (which the analog clock and the clock wise direction is based on - for the north hemisphere).
                        Many appliances/devices have digital clocks but that's not because the are more modern/better but because they are way cheaper to produce and have less moving parts.

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                        Yeah the for a long timw the cheapest watches were digital ones. And omce led even old red ones you cloid make digital clocks very very cheap.

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                          Big Ben will be digital by 2028...

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                          Why would a tower be digital?

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                            Mind you, they are the people who measure area in "stadiums" and the distance in "football field lengths" because they are too stupid to comprehend the metric system.

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                            Dpes no one in Europe ever use object for a reference. Like it's as tall the efifle tower, or that like running 3 laps around a football feild.

                            Of I were to say that America east to west would stretch from the straights of jerblarter to paar Istanbul. Does break their mind because they only understand km.

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                              Teacher here.

                              I'm pretty certain that the only place where my students ever encounter an analog clock is at school.

                              What the actual fuck? Are you not using wrist watches at all at whatever US hole you are a teacher at? Because most of these are analogue.

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                              Unless it change in last few years the cheapest wrist watched arw digital

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                              • L [email protected]

                                Really? I never knew any of them were synchronized, that's cool if so. I seem to remember us pulling them off the wall at our schools and changing them twice a year or replacing the batteries. Having them wired with synchronization may be overboard, but it is kind of cool

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                                Could they be synchronised independently?
                                My grandfather in France had a clock that was receiving a radio signal I think from Strasbourg.
                                They've been around for a while.
                                I remember being up late during day light hour change and i would suddenly hear the second hand rush forward.
                                It would stop one whole hour on the switch back.
                                I would use it to adjust my watch.
                                Nowadays I use raw GPS and any mobile phone is synced from the network anyway.

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                                  Why/How are analog clocks annoying?

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                                  Digitals are way easier to read.

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                                    Would that not mean if the power goes out after say a hurricane, the all the clocks have to be reset manually or can they somehow change them all remotely? A mechanism going threw the walls to change them from a single location sounds like a lot of work to get a synchronized clock

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                                    Im sire there is. A way to send a comand to clockw to fast-forward to a certain time.

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                                      Digitals are way easier to read.

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                                      Reading analogue and digital clocks are kinda a different skill and use different parts of the brain. That's not to say either is better, it's just different.

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                                      • joel_feila@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                                        Im sire there is. A way to send a comand to clockw to fast-forward to a certain time.

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                                        #193

                                        At what point is it not just a digital clock with an analog interface if it has the ability to receive information digitally and perform tasks off of it. (I assume increase/decrease voltage to the motor).

                                        Unless maybe that's how they do it, put all the clocks on an individual power source, then manipulate the current to increase/decrease the speed of the motors so they all move synchronized... Idk, cool concept though. Not sure how you would overcome the loss in varying distance of the clocks though.. it's possible but a lot of planning

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                                        • sommerset@thelemmy.clubS [email protected]

                                          Analog clocks are just annoying, I support this change. Also let's change format to 24hr format

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                                          I'm all in on 24hr clocks. I'm a veteran and currently work in healthcare. Use that 24hr times 40+ hours/week.

                                          But, I also like regular clocks. Especially BIG building clocks or old time 4 side post clocks you can still find on some corners of cities & towns around the globe.

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