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  • pat_riot@lemmy.todayP [email protected]

    Clock reading was covered in kindergarten and cursive writing taught in 1st grade. These were some of the first wrinkles pushed into our little growing brains in the early 80s by school. That these things are no longer being taught so early explains why so many people are willing to immediately accept the Google AI overview as gospel and are wearing Crocs everywhere they go.

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    FWIW, I went to school in mid-2000. My sibling even later. They still taught it back then, and at least here, I am pretty sure they still do. (And why would they not, after all...)

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      I feel like I'm going insane reading these comments about how difficult it is to read analog clocks, how it needs too much understanding of maths, how it takes too long,...

      Can someone please confirm: you just look, for a fraction of a second, at the clock face and know the time, right?

      Learning to read the clock was like... A couple of lessons and some homework in the 2nd grade, and everyone got it.

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      I am in the transition age range of people who have trouble reading analog clocks and I must admit I had trouble with it until I started wearing a watch as an accessory as a teenager. The issue isn't that it's hard, it's just something that you need practice at to do quickly and a lot of young people just don't look at analog clocks to tell time very often. It's not a matter of being stupid or not being taught how to do it, it's like mental "muscle memory" that just isn't built up in a world where digital clocks are everywhere, including in your pocket 24/7

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        I feel like I'm going insane reading these comments about how difficult it is to read analog clocks, how it needs too much understanding of maths, how it takes too long,...

        Can someone please confirm: you just look, for a fraction of a second, at the clock face and know the time, right?

        Learning to read the clock was like... A couple of lessons and some homework in the 2nd grade, and everyone got it.

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        Throughout middle school and high school, my bedroom clock was one of these, just the mechanism, no face, no numbers, hanging off the edge of a shelf. I had no trouble reading it. I still can easily read an analog clock with no numbers or any face marks.

        Clock parts

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          I feel like I'm going insane reading these comments about how difficult it is to read analog clocks, how it needs too much understanding of maths, how it takes too long,...

          Can someone please confirm: you just look, for a fraction of a second, at the clock face and know the time, right?

          Learning to read the clock was like... A couple of lessons and some homework in the 2nd grade, and everyone got it.

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          Man I always felt analog clocks are just old age. I felt like that for about 30 years since I was a little kid. Its easier to read digital

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          • pat_riot@lemmy.todayP [email protected]

            Why the fuck would your notes be any of the teacher's business?

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            I don't know bit it really pissed me off

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              I feel like I'm going insane reading these comments about how difficult it is to read analog clocks, how it needs too much understanding of maths, how it takes too long,...

              Can someone please confirm: you just look, for a fraction of a second, at the clock face and know the time, right?

              Learning to read the clock was like... A couple of lessons and some homework in the 2nd grade, and everyone got it.

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              Yes.

              I used to have some complex thinking I was slow at reading time in an analog watch, these days I feel much more confident.

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                Being older (mid fifties) I was taught the analogue clock.
                My eyes no longer work so well for reading, and an analogue clock face allows you to see the hands and know the time without having to work out where I've left my glasses.
                On my phone's sleep screen I'm using large high contrast digits so I guess I'm using both styles.
                Also much easier to visualise time deltas on a clock face.

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                  They are too loud, I had to insist to put the clock down and take the batteries out, since the ticking was too loud.

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                    Have you learned how to use the clock yet?

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                    Long before you honey. But you still haven't learnt to read I see.

                    And judging by the way you're flexing that single useless skill, it must've taken you a LOT of time and energy to master. 😄

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                      "Old technology" like, hammers, spoons and books 🤣 Let's get rid of the wheel. That crap was invented ages ago.

                      Update: and if you can't read a sun dial - which by the way is just reading the number the freaking shadow points at - the US should seriously consider teaching stuff like that again.

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                      ...which by the way is just reading the number the freaking shadow points at...

                      And how do you read an analog clock? By looking at the number the arm points at. Learning how to read the clock is not just "what number is it on" but it's getting familiar with the clock face so you can read it quickly. It's like the difference between spelling and reading.

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                        Being "taught" cursive in school was torture, anyway.

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                        I was taught block lettering in technical drafting class, 8th grade. Cursive is a lettering specifically created to be easy to handwrite. It flows on paper, as opposed to the repetitive short strokes of block lettering.

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                          This article is old enough to buy cigarettes now.

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                            What kind of boomer would believe this nonsense?

                            https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schools-removing-analog-clocks/

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                              This article is old enough to buy cigarettes now.

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                              Still fake too.

                              https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schools-removing-analog-clocks/

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                                I feel like I'm going insane reading these comments about how difficult it is to read analog clocks, how it needs too much understanding of maths, how it takes too long,...

                                Can someone please confirm: you just look, for a fraction of a second, at the clock face and know the time, right?

                                Learning to read the clock was like... A couple of lessons and some homework in the 2nd grade, and everyone got it.

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                                Learning to read the clock was like… A couple of lessons and some homework in the 2nd grade, and everyone got it.

                                Yes, this meme is pretty obviously fake.

                                https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schools-removing-analog-clocks/

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                                  To the title, that's always been the case.

                                  "no child left behind" turned into "make it easier until everyone passes"
                                  Shit isn't new. it's been going on for a long, long ass time.

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                                  Shit isn't new and it hasn't always been the case.

                                  It's fake.

                                  https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schools-removing-analog-clocks/

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                                  • rob_t_firefly@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                    What was scribbled out of this screenshot with black lines, and why was it scribbled out?

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                                    Maybe it was the link to Snopes explaining how this is fake?

                                    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schools-removing-analog-clocks/

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                                      I think removing everything that kids have a bit of a hard time trying to grasp just teaches kids to give up if anything isn't immediately apparent. Its not as much of a waste of time as cursive, and it's to be taught to think in another way.

                                      I think that kids "learning how to learn" is really important, especially with how these AI models are stunting like a whole generation of people.

                                      This is minor,
                                      but I also think less things need electronic displays/components that are hard to recycle and increase dependency on exploiting X country for Y resource. Its also cool to just be able to build a physical mechanism which digital clocks have no real feasible option to do

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                                      It's extremely minor because it's extremely fake.

                                      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schools-removing-analog-clocks/

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                                      • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                        This has got to be AI written or cherry picked data. They’re pulling clocks to save a few $ if anything. Old schools used to have synchronized analog systems. I could easily see those things being removed.

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                                        Yes, it's very easy to debunk this nonsense. I'm kind of amazed that nobody but me has googled this.

                                        https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schools-removing-analog-clocks/

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                                          Analogue clocks are a great example of kids having to understand a concept and apply it. And it's simple enough that anyone can learn it.

                                          I often see examples where children are required to memorize a set solution, instead of showing understanding and reaching the solutions themselves.

                                          These clocks are somewhat dated, but removing them just feels like another symptom of a failing educational system.

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                                          These clocks are somewhat dated, but removing them just feels like another symptom of a failing educational system.

                                          Don't worry because it's a fake story.

                                          https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schools-removing-analog-clocks/

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