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When humanity isn't doing so well and you're next in line for world domination...

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      They wish. They aren't building shit with those flippers. It's absolutely the cephalopods next. Dolphins might be like the horses to the octopus.

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        They wish. They aren't building shit with those flippers. It's absolutely the cephalopods next. Dolphins might be like the horses to the octopus.

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        Crows. They can manipulate objects solve problems and can do math and understand simple geometry. They also hold grudges and can fucking fly. It's 100% gonna be crows.

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          Crows. They can manipulate objects solve problems and can do math and understand simple geometry. They also hold grudges and can fucking fly. It's 100% gonna be crows.

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          You underestimate how important hands are to the human dominance. Cephalopods have tentacles, and 8 of them. That's the only thing even slightly comparable to hands. Beaks and bird feet developing industry? Not happening.

          While dolphins and crows are as intelligent as your average American, they simply lack the means to manipulate the world in a way that leads to technological development.

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            I think we're really underselling raccoons here.

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              You underestimate how important hands are to the human dominance. Cephalopods have tentacles, and 8 of them. That's the only thing even slightly comparable to hands. Beaks and bird feet developing industry? Not happening.

              While dolphins and crows are as intelligent as your average American, they simply lack the means to manipulate the world in a way that leads to technological development.

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              That's fair but cephalopods are missing out on a huge chunk of habitat space by not having bones. Yes the oceans are ~70% of the surface area, but a very significant amount of that is barren. And without bones, they can't get the force required to mine anything to make industry. I also understand that we're not talking about animals in their current form, but allowing for some amount of evolution? Well birds wings are closer evolutionarily to hands than tentacles.

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                I think we're really underselling raccoons here.

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                That’s now how you spell “crows”!

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                  That's fair but cephalopods are missing out on a huge chunk of habitat space by not having bones. Yes the oceans are ~70% of the surface area, but a very significant amount of that is barren. And without bones, they can't get the force required to mine anything to make industry. I also understand that we're not talking about animals in their current form, but allowing for some amount of evolution? Well birds wings are closer evolutionarily to hands than tentacles.

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                  You fundamentaly misunderstand evolution if you think a bird wing would evolve into a hand.

                  You're thinking about it like intelligent design. This would be a good idea, so it will surely happen.

                  Evolution requires many generations of slight variations each being slightly beneficial over the last.

                  Crows would sooner develop hand like feet than lose their wings.

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                  Also, we're talking about mining? Let's put a crow wing and octopus tentacle in an arm wrestling match. The octopus crushes the whole crow, bones and all, with one tentacle. It's not even close. Birds are fucking fragile.

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                    That’s now how you spell “crows”!

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                    I think you mean rats/mice

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                      Dolphins ain't got shit! Flipper-ass sombitches! Let's see you grasp tools without opposable thumbs! Boom, headshot. Gottem.

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