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Iran drives out 1.5 million Afghans, with some branded spies for Israel

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      To me it seems about as likely an Iranian would spy for Israel as an Afghan would, i.e. not very likely at all. They'd be highly atypical compared to the majority of people in their home country, that's for sure.

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        To me it seems about as likely an Iranian would spy for Israel as an Afghan would, i.e. not very likely at all. They'd be highly atypical compared to the majority of people in their home country, that's for sure.

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        The US and UK installed dictator, the so called Shah had close ties with Israel. Among other things Mossad trained the interior intelligence of the Shah, which has tortured, killed and disappeared tens of thousands of people. When the revolution ousted the Shah, his cronies held strong resentment and many of them readily do the bidding for Israel and other adversaries.

        As shown by some rather spectacular assassinations of Iranian military leaders, but also civilian scientists, or last year the assassination of the Hamas political chief in Tehran, it is evident that Mossad has quite a foothold in Iran.

        In regards to Afghanis, who had to flee with the Taliban retaking power, many of them are in a vulnerable position, and some of them had developed quite close ties to the US and other NATO countries during the occupation, so attempting to recruit Afghani refugees in Iran should also yield some success.

        All of this does not mean, that the regime in Iran isn't using the situation to scapegoat Afghanis and as a pretext to expel them. Both are true. There is Iranians and probably some Afghanis spying for Israel, and the Afghani refugees are facing unjustified persecution by the Iranian regime.

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          The US and UK installed dictator, the so called Shah had close ties with Israel. Among other things Mossad trained the interior intelligence of the Shah, which has tortured, killed and disappeared tens of thousands of people. When the revolution ousted the Shah, his cronies held strong resentment and many of them readily do the bidding for Israel and other adversaries.

          As shown by some rather spectacular assassinations of Iranian military leaders, but also civilian scientists, or last year the assassination of the Hamas political chief in Tehran, it is evident that Mossad has quite a foothold in Iran.

          In regards to Afghanis, who had to flee with the Taliban retaking power, many of them are in a vulnerable position, and some of them had developed quite close ties to the US and other NATO countries during the occupation, so attempting to recruit Afghani refugees in Iran should also yield some success.

          All of this does not mean, that the regime in Iran isn't using the situation to scapegoat Afghanis and as a pretext to expel them. Both are true. There is Iranians and probably some Afghanis spying for Israel, and the Afghani refugees are facing unjustified persecution by the Iranian regime.

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          If you were 25 years old as an intelligence officer in Iran when the Shah was deposed, you would be 71 today. Or do you mean their presence as contacts helped recruit a new generation of Israeli spies?

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            If you were 25 years old as an intelligence officer in Iran when the Shah was deposed, you would be 71 today. Or do you mean their presence as contacts helped recruit a new generation of Israeli spies?

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            The 71 years old intelligence officer has a 40 years old son. And that 40 years old son has a 10 years old son...

            Loyalties to regimes or opposition against them are often inherited inside families.

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              The 71 years old intelligence officer has a 40 years old son. And that 40 years old son has a 10 years old son...

              Loyalties to regimes or opposition against them are often inherited inside families.

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              We are talking about a theocratic dicatorship displacing 1,5 million people and sending them into the hands of an even worse theocratic dictatorship. And all you have to say is "yeah, they are probably spies for the jews and this is hedetary"? We are talking about an ethnic cleansing here of an proportion you are not seeing in Gaza. 1.5 million people, who searched refuge from evil people are driven back to them. Please have some compassion, dude.

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                We are talking about a theocratic dicatorship displacing 1,5 million people and sending them into the hands of an even worse theocratic dictatorship. And all you have to say is "yeah, they are probably spies for the jews and this is hedetary"? We are talking about an ethnic cleansing here of an proportion you are not seeing in Gaza. 1.5 million people, who searched refuge from evil people are driven back to them. Please have some compassion, dude.

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                In Gaza, 2 million people are currently starving, on the run and under a barrage of bombs.

                This is bigger than 1.5 million Afghanis getting deported. One is horrible, the other one is a genocide.

                And I am saying this as someone who is honestly cheering for more dead IRGC Generals.

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                  The US and UK installed dictator, the so called Shah had close ties with Israel. Among other things Mossad trained the interior intelligence of the Shah, which has tortured, killed and disappeared tens of thousands of people. When the revolution ousted the Shah, his cronies held strong resentment and many of them readily do the bidding for Israel and other adversaries.

                  As shown by some rather spectacular assassinations of Iranian military leaders, but also civilian scientists, or last year the assassination of the Hamas political chief in Tehran, it is evident that Mossad has quite a foothold in Iran.

                  In regards to Afghanis, who had to flee with the Taliban retaking power, many of them are in a vulnerable position, and some of them had developed quite close ties to the US and other NATO countries during the occupation, so attempting to recruit Afghani refugees in Iran should also yield some success.

                  All of this does not mean, that the regime in Iran isn't using the situation to scapegoat Afghanis and as a pretext to expel them. Both are true. There is Iranians and probably some Afghanis spying for Israel, and the Afghani refugees are facing unjustified persecution by the Iranian regime.

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                  This is pure scapegoating. The Iranian society is extremely prejudiced against Afghani people, who have been systematically put into the same class as women in the Iranian state: second class humans. Not even citizens, as many second and third Gen immigrants still can't receive citizenship.

                  Israel is commiting a genocide, Iran uses this as a pretense to ramp up oppression and strengthen its grip on its people.

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