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Austria to tighten gun laws after recent school shooting. Applying for a gun license will require taking a serious psychological test. There will be a "cooling off phase" after ordering a weapon.

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  • P [email protected]

    Which is a completely irrelevant point here

    So if the point isn't to save lives, what is the point?

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    The school shooting. Reading the article will help answer these types of questions. I’ll mute you for a while to give you time.

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    • P [email protected]

      Right it's a law that is on the liberal -> fascist pipeline. They don't want to ban guns (why not?) they just want to make sure that only certain people can have them based on subjective evaluation. How is this good for anyone? It does nothing to prevent things like this in the future. I guess it makes low-information voters feel good?

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      Yeah, American thoughts and prayers system works better, not.

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        Not going to prevent a thing, all for show.

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        I live in a country with rather restrictive gun laws. That stuff works great! I never have to worry about getting shot.

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          Eurodeedoos not Dollaridoos.

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          Bierpartei, not Raygun

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          • P [email protected]

            Wow kneejerk pseudo-science enshrined into law because one person out of 10,000,000 used a gun to kill someone. Do you think if he had used a car instead you'd see a similar response? why or why not?

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            You're totally right, and this is supported the data! The USA has the least restrictive gun laws of any major developed country but has similar rates of gun violence as all other developed...oh wait, never mind, the USA has by far the highest gun violence rates of any major developed nation.

            Our per capita rate of gun violence is comparable to countries like Somalia, Iraq, and Haiti.

            And also, car deaths is a huge issue too, and we should restrict car ownership and encourage mass transit and related infrastructure. Making more of our cities pedestrian-only locations protected by bollards, would also make people even safer from both accidental and intentional car deaths.

            It's also way better for the environment and thus, people's long term health, leading to even higher life spans and better happiness.

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              "serious psychology test"

              Until someone from a different political party comes in and turns it into a "political party loyalty test"

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              Soooo, we then just go back to handing guns to anyone?

              Sorry, but with that attitude we can't improve anything. How about we just keep it a psychology test?

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                I'll toss this on the mountain of proactive things other countries are doing that the U.S. isn't.

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                • B [email protected]

                  Austria lol. Mozart, not kangaroos.

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                  Beethoven being born in Germany and Hitler being born in Austria was one of those trivia facts I learned as a 12 year old — or thereabouts; I forget how old I was — that made me question everything. I was obviously, by definition, uneducated at that age but I had just sort of lumped “classical music=Vienna” and “Hitler=Germany.”

                  It’s obviously an odd fact to blow a kid’s mind and there were many more such moments to come but, for some reason, that factoid was a very effective one on my journey to realizing I didn’t know shit. (A journey I’m still on, even on things I have a degree in or worked on. Nothing teaches you how much you don’t know like learning enough to realize you haven’t even scratched the surface.)

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                  • K [email protected]

                    I live in a country with rather restrictive gun laws. That stuff works great! I never have to worry about getting shot.

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                    I don't worry about getting shot, stabbed, or bludgeoned. Avoid gang activity and gun free zones you'll be statistically in the clear. Been around firearms my whole life, if you can't trust the people around you with a firearm maybe they don't need to be walking free.

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                      I don't worry about getting shot, stabbed, or bludgeoned. Avoid gang activity and gun free zones you'll be statistically in the clear. Been around firearms my whole life, if you can't trust the people around you with a firearm maybe they don't need to be walking free.

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                      Ah yes, Afearican's never worry, famously.

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/13ejzr5/afearican_us_person_enjoying_freedom_in_a_safe/

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                        Ah yes, Afearican's never worry, famously.

                        https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/13ejzr5/afearican_us_person_enjoying_freedom_in_a_safe/

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                        For real, avoiding those areas they mentioned only does two things

                        1. Shows that they fear getting shot or stabbed in those areas, which is directly counter to their attestation.

                        2. Indicates they're probably super racist, because how do you tell what is or isn't a "gang area"?

                        Kids here are afraid to go to school (for good reason), and people like this refuse to consider ANY worthwhile fixes.

                        The data is entirely clear, gun regulations reduce gun violence. Full stop.

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                        • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                          You're totally right, and this is supported the data! The USA has the least restrictive gun laws of any major developed country but has similar rates of gun violence as all other developed...oh wait, never mind, the USA has by far the highest gun violence rates of any major developed nation.

                          Our per capita rate of gun violence is comparable to countries like Somalia, Iraq, and Haiti.

                          And also, car deaths is a huge issue too, and we should restrict car ownership and encourage mass transit and related infrastructure. Making more of our cities pedestrian-only locations protected by bollards, would also make people even safer from both accidental and intentional car deaths.

                          It's also way better for the environment and thus, people's long term health, leading to even higher life spans and better happiness.

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                          And get safer cars. The US has some kind of car arms race going on where you need a super large heavy car to be safe because the roads are full of big heavy cars... Resulting in much more deadly crashes for everyone. Besides most states driving test is a joke.

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                            Ah yes, Afearican's never worry, famously.

                            https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/13ejzr5/afearican_us_person_enjoying_freedom_in_a_safe/

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                            That is a socioeconomic issue. Maybe you should read up on the Mississippi Freedom Movement and its relationship with firearms and the civil rights movement that hasn't been whitewashed by white America.

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                              For real, avoiding those areas they mentioned only does two things

                              1. Shows that they fear getting shot or stabbed in those areas, which is directly counter to their attestation.

                              2. Indicates they're probably super racist, because how do you tell what is or isn't a "gang area"?

                              Kids here are afraid to go to school (for good reason), and people like this refuse to consider ANY worthwhile fixes.

                              The data is entirely clear, gun regulations reduce gun violence. Full stop.

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                              You're making a lot of assumptions there friend.

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                                Oh, Austria!!

                                I always confuse Austria with Baluchistan!

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                                  You're making a lot of assumptions there friend.

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                                  I'll own that

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                                    Fortunately you (unless you are Austrian) have no voice in the matter.

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                                    Kinda yes but no? There's minimum standards for gun control in the EU and thus the "right to bear arms" countries (Austria, Czechia, Poland, Baltic states, Finland) regularly have work cut out for them when the framework gets tightened while the "may issue" and "don't issue" countries are perpetually in overcompliance.

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      Soooo, we then just go back to handing guns to anyone?

                                      Sorry, but with that attitude we can't improve anything. How about we just keep it a psychology test?

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                                      Do you think that the average person is a killer but the only thing that stops them are the tools they have available?

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                                        For real, avoiding those areas they mentioned only does two things

                                        1. Shows that they fear getting shot or stabbed in those areas, which is directly counter to their attestation.

                                        2. Indicates they're probably super racist, because how do you tell what is or isn't a "gang area"?

                                        Kids here are afraid to go to school (for good reason), and people like this refuse to consider ANY worthwhile fixes.

                                        The data is entirely clear, gun regulations reduce gun violence. Full stop.

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                                        Kids here are afraid to go to school (for good reason),

                                        Why? Who is abusing their kids by trying to convince them that they should be afraid of school?

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                                          Kids here are afraid to go to school (for good reason),

                                          Why? Who is abusing their kids by trying to convince them that they should be afraid of school?

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                                          They're afraid because people keep going to them and shooting kids indiscriminately. They have to do active shooter drills because it's such a common occurrence. They don't need convincing, it's obvious

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