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John Oliver promoted alternatives to big tech in last night's episode, including Mastodon and Pixelfed

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  • J [email protected]

    SMS is incredibly antiquated as soon as you want to do anything multimedia, or heck sending an SMS longer than 144 characters.

    My mother received a video over SMS the other day and it legitimately looked like it was filmed on a Nokia 6310.

    I've encouraged my family to use Signal to replace SMS and it functions really well as an SMS upgrade. It's more secure, private, supports sending decent quality multimedia, the interface is simplistic, it has formatting, does video calls well.

    From both a security and usability perspective, it wins out on SMS in my opinion.

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    Don't get me wrong, I agree with everything you've said here.

    SMS and MMS are an antique technology, I can't argue that. But it's not going to change the fact that my family is not going to install another messaging app on their device in order to talk to me. They're going to text me or call me anyway so therefore there's no point, and hopefully with the improvements on the RCS standard the issues that have occurred with SMS and MMS will go away.

    As is I have four different messaging apps on my phone ignoring my messages app, signal (which I can count on one hand the amount of my friends that have an account), Discord which the majority of my online friends are on, and less than a handful of my relatives are on. Telegram which I mostly have for artists, and Revolt which I really should uninstall but like I really want that project to go somewhere.

    My family is almost exclusively on Facebook messenger, I do not use Facebook Messenger, sms/rcs is the only system that my relatives and I both have, and they're not about to dump Facebook Messenger which works completely for what they want solely to talk to one person which would be me.

    So yes I fully agree with everything you've stated there, 100%. But it's a perfect example of how on paper it sounds amazing but in practice it doesn't work. At the end of the day my family is going to text me regardless if I tell them that I'm on Signal, because I'm not on Facebook and they already have SMS on their phone

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      i imagine its because text messages are saved by your provider and can be used or accessed by law enforcement even if deleted. but that may or may not be an issue for most people swapping recipes or talking to their family about normal every day stuff.

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      Yeah I believe that, the people I have on my signal are generally ones that are worried that the cops are going to track them or something. I fully agree that privacy is important, unfortunately my family and the general public care is significantly less

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      • R [email protected]

        a while ago where yall saying shit like this became the “normies”

        Ohh it's normal for us. But there are still a lot of sports all-consuming, rabble rousing, linux hating, clue collar people still on Reddit, any I don't mind them staying over there.

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        Nieche communities are very quiet here though.

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          Yeah I think it's best we don't advertise this place. It's a little strange.

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            Do you really think Lemmy could handle the amount of people that Reddit has?

            yup. no question. Not one instance mind you, but Reddit is also a giant cluster. (and clusterfuck)

            As far as I know the existing instances are usually running on capacity and always in need of donations,

            We just need the big bois to stop stuffing themselves. There's 0 reason to have 2/3 of the totally traffic flooding into world because people are scared of Federation that they never even have to deal with.

            Maybe Lemmy would benefit of some way to get people to pay, such as purchasing the ability to give people awards etc.

            Maybe we make some premium pay servers with baller architecture, killer response time, user capacity limits and high speed storage?

            But the point is that without a business model, the Fediverse will only be able to handle a limited number of enthusiasts before it faces scaling problems.

            Eventually, it's going to be ads, donations or payments. It's all someone else's computer, someone has to foot the bill. But at great scale, you should be able to have an ad-free experience for something in the range a dollar or two a month.

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            I wouldn’t mind having some ads, but I wonder how some more extremists users would react.

            But I strongly believe that depending on donations is a very tough place to be, it places the burden of “begging” on the instance owners, which are already doing all the work and should definitely be compensated somehow.

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              Come to Lemmy, we got: blood thirsty Linux users, furries, femboys, communists, and tankies. Also, porn.

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              #123

              Also, porn.

              Where is this abhorrent content? I need to know so i can avoid it....

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                Also, porn.

                Where is this abhorrent content? I need to know so i can avoid it....

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                Is sh.itjust.works not federated with lemmynsfw.com? Or maybe you use a Front page or Local feed. Here on world (no comment on the instance wars), lemmynsfw communities pretty regularly show up on my All feed. Seems like whatever they do with posts over there really makes the "Active" sorter happy, if you know what I mean

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                  I wouldn’t mind having some ads, but I wonder how some more extremists users would react.

                  But I strongly believe that depending on donations is a very tough place to be, it places the burden of “begging” on the instance owners, which are already doing all the work and should definitely be compensated somehow.

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                  which are already doing all the work and should definitely be compensated somehow.

                  That's why I donate monthly to my instance 🙂

                  A pretty decent sized instance managed will uses a few boxes and some CDN, runs a couple to a few hundred a month, it doesn't take that many people paying to cover it.

                  It's not as bad managing the smaller instances. The app works like it says on the tin until you get really big.

                  IMO lemmy.world let themselves get WAY bigger than they should have. They had to start doing a hell of a lot more work to keep the thing up.

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                  • sabrew4k3@lazysoci.alS [email protected]

                    Does that Late Show with John Oliver have a presence in the Fediverse?

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                    #126

                    You mean Last Week Tonight? The Late Show is Colbert.

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                    • D [email protected]

                      Nieche communities are very quiet here though.

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                      #127

                      They are, probably even too quiet. But the level of griefers, bots and trolls is very very low, and selfishly, I REALLY like that.

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                      • thebrideworecrimson@sopuli.xyzT [email protected]

                        A flying squid, too.

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                        #128

                        Wait how is Squid this popular? 😂

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                        • thebrideworecrimson@sopuli.xyzT [email protected]

                          A flying squid, too.

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                          Also dull people

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Come to Lemmy, we got: blood thirsty Linux users, furries, femboys, communists, and tankies. Also, porn.

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                            Don't forget the Trekkies.

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                            • R [email protected]

                              Do you really think Lemmy could handle the amount of people that Reddit has?

                              yup. no question. Not one instance mind you, but Reddit is also a giant cluster. (and clusterfuck)

                              As far as I know the existing instances are usually running on capacity and always in need of donations,

                              We just need the big bois to stop stuffing themselves. There's 0 reason to have 2/3 of the totally traffic flooding into world because people are scared of Federation that they never even have to deal with.

                              Maybe Lemmy would benefit of some way to get people to pay, such as purchasing the ability to give people awards etc.

                              Maybe we make some premium pay servers with baller architecture, killer response time, user capacity limits and high speed storage?

                              But the point is that without a business model, the Fediverse will only be able to handle a limited number of enthusiasts before it faces scaling problems.

                              Eventually, it's going to be ads, donations or payments. It's all someone else's computer, someone has to foot the bill. But at great scale, you should be able to have an ad-free experience for something in the range a dollar or two a month.

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                              #131

                              It costs me less than $10/mo to run mine and some of that is because I have to pay for an email forwarder until my hosting provider lets me start sending emails, part of that is factoring the cost of the domain name. The actual cloud server costs $5/mo right now.

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                              • R [email protected]

                                Do you really think Lemmy could handle the amount of people that Reddit has?

                                yup. no question. Not one instance mind you, but Reddit is also a giant cluster. (and clusterfuck)

                                As far as I know the existing instances are usually running on capacity and always in need of donations,

                                We just need the big bois to stop stuffing themselves. There's 0 reason to have 2/3 of the totally traffic flooding into world because people are scared of Federation that they never even have to deal with.

                                Maybe Lemmy would benefit of some way to get people to pay, such as purchasing the ability to give people awards etc.

                                Maybe we make some premium pay servers with baller architecture, killer response time, user capacity limits and high speed storage?

                                But the point is that without a business model, the Fediverse will only be able to handle a limited number of enthusiasts before it faces scaling problems.

                                Eventually, it's going to be ads, donations or payments. It's all someone else's computer, someone has to foot the bill. But at great scale, you should be able to have an ad-free experience for something in the range a dollar or two a month.

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                                #132

                                Isn't it easier to handle most users on on server than it is to have a bunch of equal servers? Then the problem just moves off the one server towards the communication between the servers being the bottleneck.

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                                • A [email protected]

                                  someone tell that n00b that Bluesky is not an alternative

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                                  It is to twitter.

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                                  • H [email protected]

                                    Wait how is Squid this popular? 😂

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                                    Its not, this incident will be reported to the nearest democracy officer.

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                                    • thebrideworecrimson@sopuli.xyzT [email protected]

                                      A flying squid, too.

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                                      Don't forget Margot Robbie

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                                      • R [email protected]

                                        It's fun for now until the state gets a hold of it. They'll be over here sooner or later, just let them trickle in and get everyone used to it.

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                                        True. For now I'm happy to just see Twitter lose.

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                                        • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.worksI [email protected]

                                          I wish he had mentioned Lemmy, but it's understandable that he didn't. Also Bluesky isn't an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn't stealing so much of our publicity lately.

                                          But beggars can't be choosers, and we have seen some nice growth over the past couple months. John Oliver fans are the perfect candidates to join the fediverse, hopefully some of them find their way to Lemmy.

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                                          Exactly, don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Someone using BlueSky over Twitter is a good thing.

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