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Apple takes UK to court over 'backdoor' order

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  • L [email protected]

    Theyโ€™re certainly less-bad about this stuff than Google, Facebook, etc.

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    Yeah but they also paid trump a fortune to clamp down on eu regulations

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      Say what you want about Apple and their motivations, we really need them to win this case.

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      Ignoring the fact they already did this in China? And by the way, you have no way of knowing when your data was uploaded to the Chinese servers

      https://wiki.rossmanngroup.com/wiki/ICloud

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        Don't trust the corpos but Apple has a history of resisting stuff lime this.

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        No ๐Ÿ‘ they ๐Ÿ‘ do ๐Ÿ‘ not.

        Get Apple's dick out of your ass.

        They literally have a history of moving data to government servers and handing over encryption keys: https://thehackernews.com/2021/05/how-apple-gave-chinese-government.html?m=1

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          Ignoring the fact they already did this in China? And by the way, you have no way of knowing when your data was uploaded to the Chinese servers

          https://wiki.rossmanngroup.com/wiki/ICloud

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          Iโ€™m not sure how this is incompatible with what I said. Are you saying you donโ€™t want them to win this lawsuit?

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            Yeah but they also paid trump a fortune to clamp down on eu regulations

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            Less-bad lol

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            • L [email protected]

              Iโ€™m not sure how this is incompatible with what I said. Are you saying you donโ€™t want them to win this lawsuit?

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              It's already gone because it's not disclosed when or why it is moved to servers where the Chinese govt can decrypt it, but I guess it depends on who you're worried about having your data

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                It's already gone because it's not disclosed when or why it is moved to servers where the Chinese govt can decrypt it, but I guess it depends on who you're worried about having your data

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                No one outside of China has their data stored there, though. Every tech company that complies with China hosts the data in China and usually makes the Chinese version of their software work differently as a result. The Chinese government isn't able to just see everyone else's data.

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                  No one outside of China has their data stored there, though. Every tech company that complies with China hosts the data in China and usually makes the Chinese version of their software work differently as a result. The Chinese government isn't able to just see everyone else's data.

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                  No one outside of China has their data stored there, though.

                  1. There's no way to tell if Apple transfers your data there
                  2. Apple does not clarify how they decide when to transfer your data there
                  3. You are putting a lot of faith into a system that shows no transparency

                  https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754

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                  • L [email protected]

                    Say what you want about Apple and their motivations, we really need them to win this case.

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                    It's irrelevant what fascism collaborators do as their side job. Fuck apple.

                    https://www.axios.com/2025/01/03/tim-cook-apple-donate-1-million-trump-inauguration

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                      It's irrelevant what fascism collaborators do as their side job. Fuck apple.

                      https://www.axios.com/2025/01/03/tim-cook-apple-donate-1-million-trump-inauguration

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                      I didnโ€™t say I like Apple or that I trust them or anything. I said we want them to win this lawsuit.

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                        It's already gone because it's not disclosed when or why it is moved to servers where the Chinese govt can decrypt it, but I guess it depends on who you're worried about having your data

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                        Itโ€™s already gone. Thereโ€™s nothing I can do about it

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                        • O [email protected]

                          No one outside of China has their data stored there, though.

                          1. There's no way to tell if Apple transfers your data there
                          2. Apple does not clarify how they decide when to transfer your data there
                          3. You are putting a lot of faith into a system that shows no transparency

                          https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754

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                          You know there are some of us who donโ€™t use iCloud so you can stop assuming all of us are in this boat lol

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                          • O [email protected]

                            No ๐Ÿ‘ they ๐Ÿ‘ do ๐Ÿ‘ not.

                            Get Apple's dick out of your ass.

                            They literally have a history of moving data to government servers and handing over encryption keys: https://thehackernews.com/2021/05/how-apple-gave-chinese-government.html?m=1

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                            San Bernardino shooter case?

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                            • L [email protected]

                              Say what you want about Apple and their motivations, we really need them to win this case.

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                              Apple is all proprietary anyways, so you shouldn't trust them still, even if they win this court case. I recommend using Librebooted Dell OptiPlex 780's or Dell E4300 Latitude's with Trisquel GNU/Linux + Tor Browser with Javascript disabled if your looking for the most privacy in your internet activites. You can do what you wish with this information.

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                                Apple is all proprietary anyways, so you shouldn't trust them still, even if they win this court case. I recommend using Librebooted Dell OptiPlex 780's or Dell E4300 Latitude's with Trisquel GNU/Linux + Tor Browser with Javascript disabled if your looking for the most privacy in your internet activites. You can do what you wish with this information.

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                                Oh my god the responses are so aggravating

                                It does not fucking matter what we think of Apple. If they lose this case, we all lose.

                                This isnโ€™t a discussion about what hardware to buy dude jfc take step back and look around you for 2 seconds

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                                  San Bernardino shooter case?

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                                  That's separate from what OP is talking about.
                                  The on-device encryption is decent

                                  For data on Apple's servers (which they push icloud by anemic device storage...)
                                  Apple themselves publish that they give access to user accounts 90% of the time in the US

                                  https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/us.html

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                                  • O [email protected]

                                    No one outside of China has their data stored there, though.

                                    1. There's no way to tell if Apple transfers your data there
                                    2. Apple does not clarify how they decide when to transfer your data there
                                    3. You are putting a lot of faith into a system that shows no transparency

                                    https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754

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                                    This is true, but considering all the US government problems with China, if Apple does send your data to Chinese servers regardless of where you are, Iโ€™d guess governments in the US and Europe would make iPhones forbidden for all their sensitive personnel.

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                                    • L [email protected]

                                      I didnโ€™t say I like Apple or that I trust them or anything. I said we want them to win this lawsuit.

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                                      They can win it in a way that will still benefit only them and not you.

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                                        They can win it in a way that will still benefit only them and not you.

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                                        Do you even understand what this lawsuit is about? Do you understand what the ramifications are if they win? If they lose?

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                                          No ๐Ÿ‘ they ๐Ÿ‘ do ๐Ÿ‘ not.

                                          Get Apple's dick out of your ass.

                                          They literally have a history of moving data to government servers and handing over encryption keys: https://thehackernews.com/2021/05/how-apple-gave-chinese-government.html?m=1

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                                          Ok ๐Ÿ‘ dude ๐Ÿ‘

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