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'We Are Witnessing a New Brain Drain' as Scientists Flee America for France

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  • ? Guest

    I 100% would but being “skilled labor” kinda ruins it. I am finding out that 15 years of nuclear instrumentation work doesn’t appear to help much, at least not according to what I have found. For now though I am stuck here dealing with the insanity of America’s downfall. New plan is to save all my money to spend abroad and in Canada when on vacation. Just embarrassing to be American now.

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    "Skilled labor" i.e. SEO (search-engine optimization)

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      how much worse is it than major metros in the empire?

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      I remember Vancouver area, all of it, spiking very fast and very hard a decade before the pandemic. I haven't kept up with the market in a couple years though, maybe it's gotten better?

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        The atmosphere is nearly perfect for an EU resurgence. American workers potentially willing to leave is only one piece of it. You also have interest in drawing together as a continent against a new shared enemy. Hell even Germany is ready to drop their spending limitations to actually try to rise to the occasion.

        I really wish they'd take it a step further and pump heavy investment into the region - and not just defense. Isn't it exactly the right time to build European industries to replace the American ones they are no longer sure they can trust?

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        So true! I especially hope the software industry will be a focus. That's where security and civilian life converge and Europe has the skilled labor to pull it off.

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          Well, the correct german word is to say 'Fachkräftemangel' which in my experience translates to 'We need someone with 20+ years of experience, that we can pay like an intern'

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          Couldn’t have said it better

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            How though. I don't mind working for cheap since I am almost retiring anyways. Need something to keep me busy if I don't have to stress about politics.

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            First big hurdle: speaking German.

            Second: ageism is a thing, even though it’s not legal to be one. They want someone that has 20 yoe who is 18 and is going to work 50 years for a dime for them

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              First big hurdle: speaking German.

              Second: ageism is a thing, even though it’s not legal to be one. They want someone that has 20 yoe who is 18 and is going to work 50 years for a dime for them

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              Yep that sucks. Likely SEA retirement then. Might just do meditation and learn machine learning.

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                I remember Vancouver area, all of it, spiking very fast and very hard a decade before the pandemic. I haven't kept up with the market in a couple years though, maybe it's gotten better?

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                maybe it's gotten better

                I'm sorry, you don't seem to be familiar with the century we're in.

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                  About as long as is possible with the doors welded shut from outside, I guess.

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                  Given that there will be plenty of military people who will lose their shit as well, what makes you think they won't break out the supply of military grade high explosives? The type very specifically designed to break through solid steel barriers.

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                    I was actually just starting to root here, for the first time in my life I felt like I could settle in somewhere. Then my polycyle imploded, lost most my friends, divorce, job is getting worse every day. Leaving the US has always been a dream of mine but I felt tied hereost the time. Losing my entire social circle created a convenient opening

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                    I have never heard that word before, am I to take it that your entire social circle was based on a sexual relationship?

                    Best of luck with it all, definitely get out of that shithole.

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                      I have never heard that word before, am I to take it that your entire social circle was based on a sexual relationship?

                      Best of luck with it all, definitely get out of that shithole.

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                      Hmm, well looks like it was a typo of 'polycule'. But yeah most my social circle was people I was romantically or sexually involved with, I did also lose a couple of friends though too. It's been a little over a year at this point and honestly I have not recovered from it. I lost four relationships that were 2-3 years each, a couple going on a year, one that was a few months but incredibly moving for me, and then the marriage was nearly 13 years; all of them broke up with me basically one after the other over the course of a couple months. I feel like I've been emotionally hollowed out and while I've always been tired of this country I now also feel tired of the people here

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                        Yeah, at home we do have fiber.

                        I'd like it for my camper trailer. Something like an RV.

                        Here in Western Australia we have reasonably good 5G mobile coverage in cities and towns, but it's patchy outside of those areas.

                        Having satellite internet really opens up a whole lot of cool places you can set up to camp.

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                        Oh yeah, you Aussies have a huge outback, I can see it being great for usage in a camper. Boats are another great use case I think.

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                          Oh yeah, you Aussies have a huge outback, I can see it being great for usage in a camper. Boats are another great use case I think.

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                          I don't mean to be critical, it's great that you know the term outback, but that's not quite the right usage.

                          It tends to refer to very remote very arid places. As in outback explorers used camels and often perished due to dehydration.

                          We do have very lush forests with rivers and so on along the coast, which is more popular with campers than in the outback.

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                            I don't mean to be critical, it's great that you know the term outback, but that's not quite the right usage.

                            It tends to refer to very remote very arid places. As in outback explorers used camels and often perished due to dehydration.

                            We do have very lush forests with rivers and so on along the coast, which is more popular with campers than in the outback.

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                            Oh, tbh I thought Outback referred to the Australian wilderness as a whole, though I guess I've mostly heard it used in the context of desert overlanding.

                            Then I think there's also "the bush". What parts of Australia does that refer to?

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                              Oh, tbh I thought Outback referred to the Australian wilderness as a whole, though I guess I've mostly heard it used in the context of desert overlanding.

                              Then I think there's also "the bush". What parts of Australia does that refer to?

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                              Yeah so bush in that context is pretty much "forest", but Australia's has a pretty unique vibe. In the same way jungle isn't really "forest".

                              We call areas with fairly homogeneous species a forest like karri forest or jarrah forest, but in the absence of something more specific it's just bushland / bush.

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                                Yeah so bush in that context is pretty much "forest", but Australia's has a pretty unique vibe. In the same way jungle isn't really "forest".

                                We call areas with fairly homogeneous species a forest like karri forest or jarrah forest, but in the absence of something more specific it's just bushland / bush.

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                                That's pretty cool

                                In Estonia we have specific words for forests of most common trees. Spruce is kuusk, spruce forest is kuusik. Pine is mänd, pine forest is männik. Etc. Otherwise it's just "forest".

                                Still, none of our forests, even ancient untouched ones, look as beautiful as the Australian rainforest. Which I've admittedly only seen in movies and Forza Horizon 3.

                                Would love to visit one day, but I'm not sure if I'm planning on ever visiting Australia. It's so far and there's not all that much I want to do in Australia in particular - though the car nut in me wants to drive the Mount Panorama circuit and it IS very close to Blue Mountains and a few other national parks, so if I find a few other things I'm interested in, Australia will start looking pretty attractive. I mean there's the great barrier reef too, but I think the reef tourism is actually very damaging for the reef, so it's best not to go see that?

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                                  That's pretty cool

                                  In Estonia we have specific words for forests of most common trees. Spruce is kuusk, spruce forest is kuusik. Pine is mänd, pine forest is männik. Etc. Otherwise it's just "forest".

                                  Still, none of our forests, even ancient untouched ones, look as beautiful as the Australian rainforest. Which I've admittedly only seen in movies and Forza Horizon 3.

                                  Would love to visit one day, but I'm not sure if I'm planning on ever visiting Australia. It's so far and there's not all that much I want to do in Australia in particular - though the car nut in me wants to drive the Mount Panorama circuit and it IS very close to Blue Mountains and a few other national parks, so if I find a few other things I'm interested in, Australia will start looking pretty attractive. I mean there's the great barrier reef too, but I think the reef tourism is actually very damaging for the reef, so it's best not to go see that?

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                                  I don't think that's necessarily true about the reef.

                                  I think tour operators would be extraordinarily careful.

                                  The only problem I've ever heard of is people with private boats destroying coral with careless anchor placement.

                                  The main threat to the reef is bleaching, due to climate change.

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                                    I don't think that's necessarily true about the reef.

                                    I think tour operators would be extraordinarily careful.

                                    The only problem I've ever heard of is people with private boats destroying coral with careless anchor placement.

                                    The main threat to the reef is bleaching, due to climate change.

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                                    Ah okay, good to know!

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