smart bed
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I initially thought this was a satire comment, on a satire product.
The fact it is real makes something feel fundamentally wrong with the world.
It's... it's not satire?!
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a physical knob vs "state-of-the-art" AI
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It's... it's not satire?!
Welcome to the future!
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That's a stupid product. Also, can't stand this guy. He's extremely obnoxious, shills cloud services, and seems to give opinions about things way out of his expertise.
Yeah! I watched a few of his things, and the vibe was always off. I told YouTube to stop recommending him. Then the honeypot controversy happened (he basically put their documentary on his channel in full length, they asked him to please remove it, he played the victim, effectively sicking his fan base on honeypot)
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So that black mirror episode wasn't fiction?
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That's not a smart bed, that's an internet-connected revenue-extractor.
It's smart relative to the person who bought it
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its not dystopian, just a shit product
im here with my silly, un-epic Normal Mattress
that doesn’t have any temp control. it is somewhat cold right now, and I don’t feel that’s dystopian -
a physical knob vs "state-of-the-art" AI
rule of thumb, "will this work without internet?"
because
a: sometimes WiFi is spotty in some places around there house
b: it means they need a server, and who knows how reliable their server is
if they go out of business the product you bought is now garbaged: privacy concerns
e: who knows when they decide to go for a subscription based model and charge you again for what you bought, or to access the features you want
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rule of thumb, "will this work without internet?"
because
a: sometimes WiFi is spotty in some places around there house
b: it means they need a server, and who knows how reliable their server is
if they go out of business the product you bought is now garbaged: privacy concerns
e: who knows when they decide to go for a subscription based model and charge you again for what you bought, or to access the features you want
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Whether or not this guy is kidding I don't care, his video "Firefox is hard to love" made him seem like a dipshit looking for ragebate engagement for his shitty video. So I wouldn't be too shocked if he actually got himself in this situation.
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its not dystopian, just a shit product
im here with my silly, un-epic Normal Mattress
that doesn’t have any temp control. it is somewhat cold right now, and I don’t feel that’s dystopianShould've upgraded to the Pod4, which will get a "upgrade" after the Pod5 comes out which removes features so you go buy a Pod6.
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...just buy a normal bed, idiot
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Well I did say that this is for people that don't like to have the AC on all night, like when the cold sleeper keeps complaining about a cold head or the noise. Like not everyone lives in the US where HVAC is the norm many people in the world have those big AC units hanging on the wall that can be pretty noisy.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Those things aren't too bad unless they need repair/replace....meanwhile you are recommending a solution that starts at like $2500 that only works while you're in the bed.
Most of the USA has HVAC, but not everyone. I grew up without it. We had in-window units and box fans. You get used to it quickly.
I'm sorry, I'm just not seeing this as anything but an expensive luxury (that doesn't have physical buttons unless u paid???). Seems pretty silly to pretend its anything but that.
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Whether or not this guy is kidding I don't care, his video "Firefox is hard to love" made him seem like a dipshit looking for ragebate engagement for his shitty video. So I wouldn't be too shocked if he actually got himself in this situation.
There are way more videos like that. I quickly developed a severe dislike for him and his clickbaity JavaScript clout content.
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Note that I bought a Pod earlier on and have been upgraded to Pod 4 from warranty due to leak. It was obnoxiously cloud controlled from the start, but originally was much cheaper than now and it included a mattress and there was no mandatory monthly fee to just use the damn thing. I will give them credit that the Pod 4 is quite comfortable, the cooling/heating is nice, and the device is nice and quiet. For the most part the hardware design hits it out of the park, except for their aversion to local controls, which seems mostly driven by their software bullshit.
So first, that hardware control they added isn't exactly awesome. People kept demanding buttons on the base or a remote or something. They smugly declared that modeling the earbud 'tap N times to do an operation' was the "correct" way because remotes are too easy to lose and no one would want to touch the base. Earbuds have to settle for that crap because of lack of surface area to control, your whole ass bed doesn't have to make concessions to crappy hardware UI. So now I have double tap, or triple tap that has different meanings based on context, and even then only if the bed is 'on' which you can only do from the app and it turns itself 'off' automatically, so you can't just 'cheat' and use the local hardware controls because those only are enabled at the behest of their bullshit cloud service.
For the software side, it's trying to force you to go to their servers for no damn reason for the consumer. It will only deign to talk to a smartphone long enough to get connected to their cloud presence, and only toward that function. It also wants to "auto-control" your temperature and will frequently decide it knows better than you how you want the temperature to be and auto-adjust. It general the whole thing reeks of "we are smarter than you, and we will be all weird about all sorts of facets of this thing".
And of course, it shows in their pricing. They got rid of the mattress and raised the price to $3,000 for just the cover and also now mandate a $17/month subscription plan on top of that for new customers (we grandfathered into the old situation, no monthly plan as well as what was a more reasonably priced product).
No way in hell would I buy it as it stands now, but if they at least enabled local control, ditched the monthly payment requirement bullshit and cut the price back, then I would be an unambiguous fan.
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rule of thumb, "will this work without internet?"
because
a: sometimes WiFi is spotty in some places around there house
b: it means they need a server, and who knows how reliable their server is
if they go out of business the product you bought is now garbaged: privacy concerns
e: who knows when they decide to go for a subscription based model and charge you again for what you bought, or to access the features you want
This product is already at 'e)', you can't buy it anymore without signing up for $17/month on top of the $3,000 price (excluding mattress or base). The local controls he mentioned are disabled unless their cloud server enables it for you, and it won't let those remote controls operate form more than a few hours without the cloud server saying they are ok to use again.
A good hardware design locked to a super douchey business model enforced by shitty software.
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HOLD ON IS THIS NOT SATIRE!? I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY
Same! Life becomes a parody of itself.
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While the IKEA mattress is fine for you or me, I really don't think this smart mattress is actually that expensive. I believe 5k and up is still relatively common for a high quality mattress.
When you annualise it over 10 years and between two people, if they're getting better sleep than they would have otherwise, who are we to judge how they spend their money? It's actually not that bad in terms of value. There are nights in the summer where I would gladly pay €200 to not be sweating into the sheets.
Obviously, relying on a company for an app to control your bed is the idiotic part. But the price itself is not outrageous for me.
It would be a bit pricey as a mattress... But it isn't a mattress, it's only a cover, you also need a mattress.
They used to sell a mattress, but they "improved" the product by cost reducing out the mattress part and making you buy that from someone else (while also increasing the price).
When I bought a Pod Mattress+Cover, it was on the higher end of normal-ish price for a mattress with no mandatory subscription fee.
Now you are paying $3k for just a cover and have to at least pay $17/month to keep it actually working.
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They sell a mattress as well. It’s a bit more integrated.
They do not anymore. They sell a cover, base, and blanket, but now require you otherwise acquire a mattress elsewhere.
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... Maybe unplug it?
