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What do you mean I need to remember the numbers?

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    except phone keypads and computer keypads are inverted.

    True.

    But this isn't about computer keybads, but ATM keypads and they are the same as my phone keypad.

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    You are correct. I was assuming they'd be more like 10-keys. Google images shows they're usually in the phone orientation.

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      Row 1-middle.
      Row 2-right.
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        I have a workaround for that! Take out your phone and search for a hidden app called "phone" (should be pre-installed). There should be a "keypad" tab. There you can type in the pin from muscle memory to get the actual numbers.

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        You're out of luck if you need the letters though, because phones and PIN keypads don't have the same letters on the same numbers.

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          You're out of luck if you need the letters though, because phones and PIN keypads don't have the same letters on the same numbers.

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          I remeber letter on keypads when I was like 14 and using sms on a keypad to text my girlfriend on a Nokia phone. Why are you still using that?

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            I have a workaround for that! Take out your phone and search for a hidden app called "phone" (should be pre-installed). There should be a "keypad" tab. There you can type in the pin from muscle memory to get the actual numbers.

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            I one time opened netflix to do this

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            • theimpressivex@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

              Row 1-middle.
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              ::: spoiler spoiler
              8675309
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              0118-999-881-999-119-7253 on phone layout
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                I remeber letter on keypads when I was like 14 and using sms on a keypad to text my girlfriend on a Nokia phone. Why are you still using that?

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                Helps remembering pins

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                  Why mix up all the numbers, but not numbers 9, 5 and 6?

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                    Why mix up all the numbers, but not numbers 9, 5 and 6?

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                    OPs PIN is 9565

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                      Why mix up all the numbers, but not numbers 9, 5 and 6?

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                      If the randomizer algorithm isn't allowed to leave any numbers in their original position, it sacrifices a tiny bit of security and a tiny bit of processing power, and a tiny bit of disk space, for no real benefit.

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                        How irresponsible. I almost forgot mine seeing this.

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                          If the randomizer algorithm isn't allowed to leave any numbers in their original position, it sacrifices a tiny bit of security and a tiny bit of processing power, and a tiny bit of disk space, for no real benefit.

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                          Yeah it's like how the optimal cypher was like 11 swaps

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                            ::: spoiler spoiler
                            0118-999-881-999-119-7253 on phone layout
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                            I'll just put this with all the other fire.

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                              except phone keypads and computer keypads are inverted.

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                              Maybe the calculator would be similar?

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                                OPs PIN is 9565

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                                More like 6969 and the 5 is a red herring

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                                  I never seen atm does this as they all have physical keypad, only those card machine. We have to tell customer that it's randomised and explain the security advantage to them, which they will understand.

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                                    I remeber letter on keypads when I was like 14 and using sms on a keypad to text my girlfriend on a Nokia phone. Why are you still using that?

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                                    I used to be able to type out a full text with my phone barely opened in my pocket in class, certainly can't do that with touchscreens 😅

                                    These days I can type pretty fast on a touchscreen but I do sometimes miss the old days of unique flip phones compared to the boring slabs of glass we get now.

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                                      Runescape has trained me for this

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                                        I installed an NFC door reader at work. You can add a backup pin. But the reader is tall and it's only two rows so you get

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                                        it's HIGHLY infuriating to find the numbers for some reason

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                                          Never fear, citizen! It wasn't really ever your money, anyhow! 😁

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