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Bezos wedding: Venice protestors claim 'enormous victory' after venue change

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    or perhaps, built by people enslaved by the likes of bezos.

    keep on simpin' serf.

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    Keep on serfin' simp.

    You need people to organize and give directions. People on their own are trapped in the routines they have. There will never be built something pretty like Venice without leaders. All you do by making the recognition of leadership toxic is that there won't be leaders [that you can choose or build up] who organize a better life for you.

    To add to this:

    Venice is the historic city of global trade that is filled with tourist second homes. To celebrate with the inhabitants is simping on its own. The working people don't live in Venice anymore. People who object are other rich people who feel diminished because they cannot rent the city themselves.

    The elephant in the room is the introduction of the tourist ticket for Venice. How can Bezos rent the city? He must have bought all tickets for the day. Now, was the ticket introduced by his influence to make that possible? That would be something to object, not the renting itself.

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      Keep on serfin' simp.

      You need people to organize and give directions. People on their own are trapped in the routines they have. There will never be built something pretty like Venice without leaders. All you do by making the recognition of leadership toxic is that there won't be leaders [that you can choose or build up] who organize a better life for you.

      To add to this:

      Venice is the historic city of global trade that is filled with tourist second homes. To celebrate with the inhabitants is simping on its own. The working people don't live in Venice anymore. People who object are other rich people who feel diminished because they cannot rent the city themselves.

      The elephant in the room is the introduction of the tourist ticket for Venice. How can Bezos rent the city? He must have bought all tickets for the day. Now, was the ticket introduced by his influence to make that possible? That would be something to object, not the renting itself.

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      rome conquered and enslaved millions of people. then became so beholden to consuming that they consumed themselves. Then they allied with the nazies. They are definitely very pretty people though.

      The mongols surpassed Italy and rome by a wide margin, its strange how no one worships them. could it be? Could be it because they weren't white?

      keep on simpin serf. The time for emperors and kings should be over, but here we have 'little people' begging for the ruling class to just spit a little of their bread crumbs into their mouths. its ridiculous

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        Keep on serfin' simp.

        You need people to organize and give directions. People on their own are trapped in the routines they have. There will never be built something pretty like Venice without leaders. All you do by making the recognition of leadership toxic is that there won't be leaders [that you can choose or build up] who organize a better life for you.

        To add to this:

        Venice is the historic city of global trade that is filled with tourist second homes. To celebrate with the inhabitants is simping on its own. The working people don't live in Venice anymore. People who object are other rich people who feel diminished because they cannot rent the city themselves.

        The elephant in the room is the introduction of the tourist ticket for Venice. How can Bezos rent the city? He must have bought all tickets for the day. Now, was the ticket introduced by his influence to make that possible? That would be something to object, not the renting itself.

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        Jesus Christ, this is the worst case of billionaire apologia I’ve ever seen. You are just going to town on those boots.

        Edit: Great Man Theory is the worst kind of cuckoldry, you fucking simp.

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          It looks like Lauren Sanchez has had one too many plastic surgeries.

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          yeah about 9 surgeries ago

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          • B [email protected]

            Even the Romans used to be like “yeah you got too much money, time to kill you and add your wealth to the common fund”

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            You’re only bringing that up because it’s a highly relevant and logical solution to the problem of isolated and ego driven wealth objectively and negatively affecting society on a global scale, way to strawman, libtard.

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              Nothing was ever actually built by people like Bezos.

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              Nothing was ever built by a person on a computer.

              Don't diminish his work. If you want billionaires to have less influence you have to replace what they do. If you think they do nothing then you have nothing to understand.

              Of all places, Venice is in the top 5 of places that cannot complain about being commercialized and rented out. Simping for Venice just shows how big the hate for Bezos is which isn't justified when looking at the criticism:

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos

              Where does the hate come from? He shows the limits of worker organized structures in comparison. All the unemployed could have built Amazon by themselves. The focus should be placed on finding new forms of cooperation, not on hating Bezos.

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                rome conquered and enslaved millions of people. then became so beholden to consuming that they consumed themselves. Then they allied with the nazies. They are definitely very pretty people though.

                The mongols surpassed Italy and rome by a wide margin, its strange how no one worships them. could it be? Could be it because they weren't white?

                keep on simpin serf. The time for emperors and kings should be over, but here we have 'little people' begging for the ruling class to just spit a little of their bread crumbs into their mouths. its ridiculous

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                The mongols ... Could be it because they weren’t white?

                As far as I know, the mongols ended slavery. That's the big no no.

                begging for the ruling class to just spit a little of their bread crumbs into their mouths. its ridiculous

                Yes, like simping for the people of Venice who are allowed to live in the pretty city.

                But telling me to not simp for Bezos. Instead U should beg in style and protest for more handouts.

                However, I am not simping for Bezos but pointing out the double standard for Venice.

                time for emperors and kings should be over

                Bezos is just one of the richest people. He hasn't created the system. Others did and do. Focussing on Bezos isn't helpful to understand what needs to change.

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                  Having all those billionaires there gathered at once would be a massive opportunity to create a huge transferable amount of wealth under the right circumstances.

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                  After reading Kim Stanley Robinson's The Ministry for the Future, I've just been crossing my fingers for homemade drones to start taking down private planes.

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                    Jesus Christ, this is the worst case of billionaire apologia I’ve ever seen. You are just going to town on those boots.

                    Edit: Great Man Theory is the worst kind of cuckoldry, you fucking simp.

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                    Great Man Theory is the worst kind of cuckoldry

                    Jesus Christ

                    Do you see what you did?

                    You are missing my point entirely.

                    of great men, or heroes: highly influential and unique individuals who, due to their natural attributes, such as superior intellect, heroic courage, extraordinary leadership abilities, or divine inspiration, have a decisive historical effect.

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_man_theory

                    My argument is that there is no need to rely on divine leaders. Any leader could do. But for that, a climate must exist that fosters leaders so that some are available. By being toxic, the left eliminates their leaders and they end up as customers of Amazon, which they despise, but cannot change.

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                      Nothing was ever built by a person on a computer.

                      Don't diminish his work. If you want billionaires to have less influence you have to replace what they do. If you think they do nothing then you have nothing to understand.

                      Of all places, Venice is in the top 5 of places that cannot complain about being commercialized and rented out. Simping for Venice just shows how big the hate for Bezos is which isn't justified when looking at the criticism:

                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos

                      Where does the hate come from? He shows the limits of worker organized structures in comparison. All the unemployed could have built Amazon by themselves. The focus should be placed on finding new forms of cooperation, not on hating Bezos.

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                      Lemmy, the software you're using right now, was built by a person on a computer. As was the operating system your computer uses to function.

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                        Lemmy, the software you're using right now, was built by a person on a computer. As was the operating system your computer uses to function.

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                        As was the management structure, leadership culture and selection of markets by Bezos.

                        People on computers work, but so do CEOs.

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                          The mongols ... Could be it because they weren’t white?

                          As far as I know, the mongols ended slavery. That's the big no no.

                          begging for the ruling class to just spit a little of their bread crumbs into their mouths. its ridiculous

                          Yes, like simping for the people of Venice who are allowed to live in the pretty city.

                          But telling me to not simp for Bezos. Instead U should beg in style and protest for more handouts.

                          However, I am not simping for Bezos but pointing out the double standard for Venice.

                          time for emperors and kings should be over

                          Bezos is just one of the richest people. He hasn't created the system. Others did and do. Focussing on Bezos isn't helpful to understand what needs to change.

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                          You earlier "If it wasnt for people like bezos venice wouldn't exist!"

                          you now; "yeah bezos isn't to blame its the system!"

                          hes part of the system, literally you are going to bat for a rich man then backing down to save face. "please spit in my mouth, bezos!" is your thesis and don't even try to pretend anymore. I would say its you who has double standards here but its clear you have no standards.

                          keep licking that boot.

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                            Nothing was ever built by a person on a computer.

                            Don't diminish his work. If you want billionaires to have less influence you have to replace what they do. If you think they do nothing then you have nothing to understand.

                            Of all places, Venice is in the top 5 of places that cannot complain about being commercialized and rented out. Simping for Venice just shows how big the hate for Bezos is which isn't justified when looking at the criticism:

                            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos

                            Where does the hate come from? He shows the limits of worker organized structures in comparison. All the unemployed could have built Amazon by themselves. The focus should be placed on finding new forms of cooperation, not on hating Bezos.

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                            His work, his sole accomplishment, is maximizing value extraction. That's not nothing, it's less than nothing because it's a monumental net negative for the rest of society.

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                              Nothing was ever built by a person on a computer.

                              Don't diminish his work. If you want billionaires to have less influence you have to replace what they do. If you think they do nothing then you have nothing to understand.

                              Of all places, Venice is in the top 5 of places that cannot complain about being commercialized and rented out. Simping for Venice just shows how big the hate for Bezos is which isn't justified when looking at the criticism:

                              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos

                              Where does the hate come from? He shows the limits of worker organized structures in comparison. All the unemployed could have built Amazon by themselves. The focus should be placed on finding new forms of cooperation, not on hating Bezos.

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                              Where does the hate come from?

                              He hordes more wealth than almost anyone else in the entire world. The man could fucking cure cancer and I would still hate him and consider him a horrible person. Nobody needs or deserves that much money when so much of the word is struggling to get by. And nobody makes that much money without exploiting others.

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                                You earlier "If it wasnt for people like bezos venice wouldn't exist!"

                                you now; "yeah bezos isn't to blame its the system!"

                                hes part of the system, literally you are going to bat for a rich man then backing down to save face. "please spit in my mouth, bezos!" is your thesis and don't even try to pretend anymore. I would say its you who has double standards here but its clear you have no standards.

                                keep licking that boot.

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                                In the same way that it is true that Bezos hasn't built Venice but the workers. Bezos organizes the trading but he is just new money. His influence must be much smaller than his wealth.

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                                  Where does the hate come from?

                                  He hordes more wealth than almost anyone else in the entire world. The man could fucking cure cancer and I would still hate him and consider him a horrible person. Nobody needs or deserves that much money when so much of the word is struggling to get by. And nobody makes that much money without exploiting others.

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                                  He owns shares of Amazon, not money. If he sells those he loses his influence.

                                  People are struggling because markets are distorted, including preventing free global movement of people. Figure out who does that before hating Bezos.

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                                    In the same way that it is true that Bezos hasn't built Venice but the workers. Bezos organizes the trading but he is just new money. His influence must be much smaller than his wealth.

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                                    Bezos organizes the trading?

                                    he absolutely does not, he pays people to do that for him. You fool.

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                                      Great Man Theory is the worst kind of cuckoldry

                                      Jesus Christ

                                      Do you see what you did?

                                      You are missing my point entirely.

                                      of great men, or heroes: highly influential and unique individuals who, due to their natural attributes, such as superior intellect, heroic courage, extraordinary leadership abilities, or divine inspiration, have a decisive historical effect.

                                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_man_theory

                                      My argument is that there is no need to rely on divine leaders. Any leader could do. But for that, a climate must exist that fosters leaders so that some are available. By being toxic, the left eliminates their leaders and they end up as customers of Amazon, which they despise, but cannot change.

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                                        His work, his sole accomplishment, is maximizing value extraction. That's not nothing, it's less than nothing because it's a monumental net negative for the rest of society.

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                                        Maximizing value extraction is not bad as long as there is a free market. That's what drives competition and brings prices down. Of course, employees and customers need other options for this to be fair.

                                        Unless you organize a cooperating economy, maximizing value extraction is inevitable.

                                        Besides, you shouldn't ignore the work he does.

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                                          To be fair, his "JC vs Great man" reply was funny. Not enough, but funny.

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