Seems like the perfect day to ask: Muricans, what's your dream country to expatriate to? Non-Muricans, what's the thought on accepting US refugees?

[sterile_technique@lemmy.world]

Please go into lots of detail - some of us are taking notes!

[jackdark@lemmy.world]

Ireland. I'm a firm believer that if you move to a region that speaks a different language, you need to make a genuine effort to learn that language. After having 3 years of foreign language (including a year of Gaelic when I lived in Ireland as a child for a year), I know it's not my thing, so an English speaking country is a requirement for me. Ireland is gorgeous, and still in the EU. Scotland would also be top of the list if they split from the UK and joined the EU.

[a_union_of_kobolds@lemmy.world]

We're thinking Scotland. There's some real nice homes for reasonable prices. My wife's already a UK citizen so that helps.

[infinitevalence@discuss.online]

I was trying to repatriate to Italy but they closed down the policy that would have let me return with my family.

[blamethepeacock@lemmy.ca]

As a Canadian, it appears to me that most of the Americans who want to move here are doing so because they like and support the way that Canada is currently functioning, and that's fine by me.

Immigrants who want the country to change for them are problematic. I almost think that first generation immigrants shouldn't get to vote, it should be a gift to their children rather than themselves. That shouldn't even need the child to be born in Canada, I'd actually be fine with anyone who goes through at least half their primary education (so let's say grade 7 or younger) here being included if they moved here with their parents when they were younger.

[kaboom@reddthat.com]

No where. I like America. What are my other options, realistically? Britain which just banned porn? Australia which banned Hentai? Canada, which is just America but cold and sky high housing costs?

[lost@lemmy.wtf]

Not much, though - I'm English, and we worked out it would cost £20k for the various visas. On top of that, you need to pay an NHS premium, even though you would already be paying for it through the usual national insurance deduction from your salary. It will also take 10 years before they are a citizen.

We decided to stay here (Germany). Less costs and, sadly, better health care.

[2xspicy@sopuli.xyz]

My son attends a boarding school near Lake Constance in Switzerland. I wouldn’t mind living there permanently, Europe is great.

[mrodri89@lemmy.zip]

I don’t want to start over. I’d rather die.

[semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.world]

If I could live in no country I’d be so happy. But the only place to do that is a desert in Africa and my natural habitat is temperate forests.

So I guess Canada.

[fletcher@lemmy.today]

I'm thinking either Finland or Norway. But the only way I could ever emigrate to either of those countries would be as an asylum seeker. I don't make enough money, nor do I have any skills they want. I've got plenty of skills...just not any that are in 'high demand'.

[bebopalouie@lemmy.ca]

Why is the difference between immigrant and ex patriot?

[carbonicedragon@pawb.social]

The Netherlands probably, but with the massive grain of salt that I suspect that choosing a "ideal place to live" without actually having been to that place is likely to result in a skewed idea of what a place is truly like, and as I've never been outside the United States I have that issue when thinking about any other country. I also doubt they or anywhere else that might make my list of ideal places would want me, seeing as I'm just some random factory worker without any especially rare skill.

[endymion_mallorn@kbin.melroy.org]

Even though things aren't going as they should, I wouldn't be likely to leave. I don't agree with a lot of what's happening here, but there's no nation I know that supports more of my beliefs and lifestyle than the USA. Plus, my family, my friends, and my loved ones are all here. Leaving would mean losing them, and that's totally unacceptable.

[bebopalouie@lemmy.ca]

Age-verification laws have spread throughout the states in the last two years. It ain’t going to get better.

[grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world]

Canada, Iceland, New Zealand, or Germany, in no particular order. Then again, of those 4, I've only been to Canada.

[selfhigh5@lemmy.world]

Ex patriot is a whitewashing term for immigrant. Because immigrants has a negative connotation so whites had to make up another term so they could differentiate themselves.

[justiceforporygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Dream? Hard to say since I've never been outside the US. Maybe Ireland?

Reality? Pretty much anywhere that I would have the opportunity to make a living.

[sterile_technique@lemmy.world]

It's relative to the country - you expatriate from your country of origin, and become an immigrant to a new host country.

Expatriate and emigrate are more or less synonyms.

ex patriot

That's what I became when the Nazis took over as a result of being overwhelming popular to US voters. Turns out it's not just a handful of powerful fuckers taking advantage of the rest of us: 'we the people' are, for the most part, just evil.

[deathbybigsad@sh.itjust.works]

I googled a bit, my best bet is Canada.

Large population of the Chinese diaspora, so I don't feel too much like a minority (I am Chinese American).

The other choice is Australia.

EU is great, but since the UK isn't in EU anymore, I'd have to chose a non-English country, meaning, I'd have to learn another language. My brain can't handle that. Already have 3 spoken and 2 written languages stuck in my head (mostly dormant, haven't used some those languages for a while), I think my brain will explode if I try to learn more. Population of the Chinese diaspora is too small. So I'd also feel alone, because like... Imagine living in a place where nobody looks like you. Like a Black American kid in the deep south of the US and all your classmates are white, that's how it feels basically. As for the UK, I wouldn't need to learn another language, but UK just had a xenophobic riot in 2024, doesn't seem too friendly in my opinion. If the UK was in EU, I could just pack up and to go another EU country if Shit Hits the Fan, its what I like about the EU, options. But too bad UK isn't in EU...

There is also Singapore, which has like over 70% ethnic Chinese, and the official languages include English and Mandarin, which I already know.

Not technically "dream countries", but the most realistic countries that would be livable for me. Because I doubt I can speak Norweigian or Finnish. (Even tho I would love those countries)

TLDR: As a Chinese American, Canada as first choice, Australia as second place. Then probably Sinapore.

(Sorry if I'm rambling, can't express it coherently since ICE raids are on my mind)

Edit: I would probably also say Taiwan as an option, well... other than the fact that they are constantly on the verge of getting invaded, and I am not fond of the CCP.