Working in a company without a union
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While a meme, yes. I'm an ex-boss and I'll happily verify that HR works for the company. The function is, "within what the company needs, keep employees happy and content", sure - but at the slightest conflict between company needs and HR needs it's the company needs that matter.
This isn't really supposed to be a secret, but I think we don't talk about it openly enough since every time a discussion like this pops up I see people who have misunderstood the function of HR.
... now what might be a bit more of a secret is how closely companies work together with the unions. Let's just say I've never seen any real union pushback.
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While a meme, yes. I'm an ex-boss and I'll happily verify that HR works for the company. The function is, "within what the company needs, keep employees happy and content", sure - but at the slightest conflict between company needs and HR needs it's the company needs that matter.
This isn't really supposed to be a secret, but I think we don't talk about it openly enough since every time a discussion like this pops up I see people who have misunderstood the function of HR.
... now what might be a bit more of a secret is how closely companies work together with the unions. Let's just say I've never seen any real union pushback.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I think its not a secret but its just not how HR is presented to employees. Its presented as the group where you go when you have a problems with someone. Unfortunately HR may see the person complaining as the problem if its in the companys best interest.
I have never went to HR and never will. They tend to have very fake employees in that group as well. People who act like they are friendly but they wont back you up when needed.
As a manager you have a better chance of getting what you want from HR since you are more important to the company.
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Let’s just say I’ve never seen any real union pushback.
The places that pushed back got retaliatory outsourced and automated until pushback stopped.
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Depending on the company/the department, it's also a goal to avoid legal trouble. Which can sometimes benefit the employee, but if HR is acting in your benefit there's a decent chance you could have sued the company
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I work in a union and this shit happens there too.
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Depending on the company/the department, it's also a goal to avoid legal trouble. Which can sometimes benefit the employee, but if HR is acting in your benefit there's a decent chance you could have sued the company
That's mostly a US thing though I think? Over here in Europe the concept of suing your company is practically non-existent. Your recourse is through the legal system regardless of any HR actions.
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I work in a union and this shit happens there too.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah im unionized and realized that the union is there to keep the peace between the boss and workers, not actually do anything if the worker is being abused. Having said that, union all the way, i would take this shit over my old non union job any day
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Yeah im unionized and realized that the union is there to keep the peace between the boss and workers, not actually do anything if the worker is being abused. Having said that, union all the way, i would take this shit over my old non union job any day
Right? Like at least I have SOME kind of defense.
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My company is 13 people big. HR is the wife of the owner/president/CEO.
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I work in a union and this shit happens there too.
Unions are great and a bad union is better than no union (imo) but if people go into a union job thinking all the problems with modern work culture will be solved by it they'll just walk away jaded and disappointed.
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That's mostly a US thing though I think? Over here in Europe the concept of suing your company is practically non-existent. Your recourse is through the legal system regardless of any HR actions.
America uses lawsuits because there is no legal system around workers rights. Best we can do is sue for damages and hope there is something left over after lawyer fees.
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Unions are great and a bad union is better than no union (imo) but if people go into a union job thinking all the problems with modern work culture will be solved by it they'll just walk away jaded and disappointed.
Agreed. It's very helpful, and useful, but it doesn't turn work into some magic utopia. People are still people.
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My company is 13 people big. HR is the wife of the owner/president/CEO.
Sounds bad, but really isn't that much worse than typical HR, who will rat you out to the CEO in a heartbeat.
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Sounds bad, but really isn't that much worse than typical HR, who will rat you out to the CEO in a heartbeat.
Yeah. HR at my work doesn't know how to do anything other than payroll. I had to set up short term disability because I had surgery and it took like a month for me to get it handled. I was totally on my own because HR knew nothing and didn't even give me the right phone number for the disability insurance folks. -_-
But don't worry, she'll come yell at you like you're 5 if she thinks you're goofing off.
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Yeah. HR at my work doesn't know how to do anything other than payroll. I had to set up short term disability because I had surgery and it took like a month for me to get it handled. I was totally on my own because HR knew nothing and didn't even give me the right phone number for the disability insurance folks. -_-
But don't worry, she'll come yell at you like you're 5 if she thinks you're goofing off.
Sounds like a fun work environment!
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Sounds like a fun work environment!
Totally. I work entirely from home now because of it. Used my chronic illness to escape the bad vibes
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That’s why you hire a redhead dude named Toby to run HR
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That’s why you hire a redhead dude named Toby to run HR
NO. GOD NO. NO GOD PLEASE NO. NO. NO. NOO.
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Yeah im unionized and realized that the union is there to keep the peace between the boss and workers, not actually do anything if the worker is being abused. Having said that, union all the way, i would take this shit over my old non union job any day
In many situations the union is a good way to put more pressure on the boss. Yes, the boss can still do something shady, but the consequences are likely to be more significant.
