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    https://fosstodon.org/@pheonix/114931121766433702

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    The fuck was this dude watching/writing down for google to think it was related to terrorism or trafficking????

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      The fuck was this dude watching/writing down for google to think it was related to terrorism or trafficking????

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      Taken and Zero Dark Thirty

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        I have TWO USB backups.

        My brother fucked one up for his Windows XP obsession. Which would be funny, if it were not dangerous.

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          I have TWO USB backups.

          My brother fucked one up for his Windows XP obsession. Which would be funny, if it were not dangerous.

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          Justified obsession tbh.

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          • F [email protected]

            Famously Americans did the splitting thing once before with Standard Oil and it was immensely beneficial to the economy in general. Just checked the wiki and it was more than 100 years ago. Unlikely the same laws are still on the books.

            There are several companies currently active that deserve the same treatment.

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            The same laws are still on the books, actually! We just never use them anymore.

            The big one is the Sherman Anti-trust Act.

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              Cloud can be a backup, it absolutely should never be your only copy.

              But keep in mind they will probably use that data for anything they want, like training AI models. So make sure you are ok with them doing that on any data you put there. This is mostly why I fill my cloud space with incoherent nonsense.

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              I just use an European cloud storage provider instead. It's cheaper than Google Drive and all the others. It just does not have the fancy client, which to me is a plus honestly.

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                The fuck was this dude watching/writing down for google to think it was related to terrorism or trafficking????

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                They probably assumed it was a piracy list. To them, piracy is terrorism and trafficking.

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                  The fuck was this dude watching/writing down for google to think it was related to terrorism or trafficking????

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                  Lawrence of Arabia?

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                    They probably assumed it was a piracy list. To them, piracy is terrorism and trafficking.

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                    guess we just need to wiggle a sheet of paper with a list of book and movie titles to scare googie

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                      I never really liked Google, but their whole thing was supposed to be that you never needed to worry about backups.

                      no it wasn't. no sane person ever told you that. everyone always knew situation like the one described here will come sooner or later.

                      google might have told you so, but it is of similar value to when tobacco company tells you that smoking is healthy and to please continue smoking (and giving us money).

                      they’ve decided to screw people over who relied on their drive and office suite.

                      these people are not the customers. i will repeat that, because this part is really important - THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE CUSTOMERS.

                      when you don't pay for the service, you are not the customer, you are the merchandise that is being sold. and you are treated like one. when you are selling screwdrivers and one of them fall of the shelf, you don't bother yourself thinking if it hurt.

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                      Look, you and I know this. I never trusted Google for anything. But I'm just saying, I understand why normies are shocked and feel betrayed.

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                        I’m in university (as an old) (...) I know better, but young people

                        wait, are you saying that twenty-something is old? 😂

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                        Where did you get twenty-something from? No, I consider people in their twenties to be young people.

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                          Thanks for the explanation. I always knew that concept just as E2EE.

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                          E2ee to me is like signal, ie they don't store data except meta data. Zk implies data at rest is encrypted

                          I am no expert just a prosumer

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                            Ah yes, the very first lesson I'd teach in my multimedia 'authoring' class: Back your shit up, here's 11 ways to do that; if you EVER tell me you lost your work as an excuse I'm going to LAUGH IN YOUR FACE as I assign you a ZERO.

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                            Using cloud services as the only copy is literally what I have been told to do working on my PhD by my supervisors. This is in the cybersecurity department. How you think this attitude is acceptable or normal is beyond me.

                            The whole point of modern cloud platforms is they worry about this so you don't have to. Not that people ever actually followed 321 backup policy anyway.

                            Edit: at least my stuff is on two different cloud services.

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                              I never really liked Google, but their whole thing was supposed to be that you never needed to worry about backups.

                              no it wasn't. no sane person ever told you that. everyone always knew situation like the one described here will come sooner or later.

                              google might have told you so, but it is of similar value to when tobacco company tells you that smoking is healthy and to please continue smoking (and giving us money).

                              they’ve decided to screw people over who relied on their drive and office suite.

                              these people are not the customers. i will repeat that, because this part is really important - THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE CUSTOMERS.

                              when you don't pay for the service, you are not the customer, you are the merchandise that is being sold. and you are treated like one. when you are selling screwdrivers and one of them fall of the shelf, you don't bother yourself thinking if it hurt.

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                              Actually you can pay for google services including cloud storage and many businesses do this. How are they not customers?

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                                The thing is, we really don't know what's in the hardware, how do we know there isn't a "Intel ME" on your phone that is just hibernating, waiting for the right kill signal?

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                                Phone SoCs aren't made by Intel lol. You should be more worried about modem/baseband firmware.

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                                  Yeah, for me cloud storage is one of many backups, but it's just that, a backup. It should never be the original or only. It's there in case your PC shits the bed, not as your prime storage.

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                                  Actually many people use cloud as the original. I don't get why we are pretending this isn't normal.

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                                    what needs to happen is companies not have this much power ever.

                                    There is zero chance that we can get the oligarchy to surrender power peacefully, so that's not going to happen unless…

                                    ^For^ ^legal^ ^purposes^ ^this^ ^comment^ ^is^ ^a^ ^joke^

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                                    Circumcision it's no joke sir.

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                                      This is extra bad because they want you to use cloud files in gdrive (I can't remember what the feature is actually called), which doesn't save the content locally on your computer, but puts an icon that will download the content from Google servers when you click on it. This means you have no local backup of your data in your computer backups.

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                                      This is also why we're screaming about Windows and it's integrated AI that can scan your drive. What Google is doing here Windows could do in the future with your local files. "That's a nice collection of 2000s MP3s you have aaaand it's gone."

                                      "That's a nice program you have there but the creator has revoked the licensing. So we disabled it until you update your license"

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                                        Cloud can be a backup, it absolutely should never be your only copy.

                                        But keep in mind they will probably use that data for anything they want, like training AI models. So make sure you are ok with them doing that on any data you put there. This is mostly why I fill my cloud space with incoherent nonsense.

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                                        If you want to back up anything important on someone else's server (cloud), put it all into an encrypted blob. It's not a bad idea to use them to put a copy of your files in a different physical location, but also don't trust them any further than necessary.

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                                          I never really liked Google, but their whole thing was supposed to be that you never needed to worry about backups.

                                          no it wasn't. no sane person ever told you that. everyone always knew situation like the one described here will come sooner or later.

                                          google might have told you so, but it is of similar value to when tobacco company tells you that smoking is healthy and to please continue smoking (and giving us money).

                                          they’ve decided to screw people over who relied on their drive and office suite.

                                          these people are not the customers. i will repeat that, because this part is really important - THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE CUSTOMERS.

                                          when you don't pay for the service, you are not the customer, you are the merchandise that is being sold. and you are treated like one. when you are selling screwdrivers and one of them fall of the shelf, you don't bother yourself thinking if it hurt.

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                                          Do you think that people don't pay for Google Drive? The 15 GB they give you is a free sample. Their basic 100 GB cloud storage plan costs 20 USD annually and the premium 2 TB plan costs 200 USD annually. Maybe you don't pay for Google Drive, but there are over 150 million people who do. These people are paying customers.

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