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    What sucks is that once these laws are in place repealing them will probably never happen. There are far too many people who will benefit financially from this to allow that to happen.

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    • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

      For some people "the whole internet" is like half a dozen websites.

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      I worked in tech support. For some people Facebook is the internet

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        ok but my point is that if someone posts a protest article link to the honda forum, then, as I understand, the forum will become legally liable for that too. so if the forum guarantee that the link won't even get publicly visible for a second, that's when they don't need to do age verification

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        Forums have mods and admins. As long as they don't allow a topic habitually then, per my understanding for the UK law right now, that would make it exempt.

        Compliance with the ID law is actually quite expensive if you contract Persona as the ID checker. If 1 user of a site not based in tje UK or about UK things posting 1 news article a mod deletes in 10 minutes is enough to trigger a $50,000 compliance contact, then it's enough to be amazing standing for an easily won lawsuit about burdens on small business.

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          Yeah, probably not.

          What a failure of an idea.

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            I stopped using my hdmi adapter because it wasn't looking as good as the component video. You got the 1920 to work? What version of OPL do you have? I might have to try it again!

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              Ask yourself why you are so triggered when I call you a chomo do some introspection

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                Age Verification Is Coming for the Whole Corporate Internet

                There, FTFY

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                  It is so complicated that you're both correct and incorrect. US government added to it, yes. I'd argue the fundamental work was independent researchers from multiple countries (UK, USA, France). I'd argue the critical infrastructure was multiple non-profits.

                  Also the question is "what exactly is the beginning of the internet". Is it usenet? Telnet? Arpanet?

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                  Didn't it all start at DARPA?

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                  • danhab99@programming.devD [email protected]

                    Does anyone vaguely remember those internet licenses from that Star Trek DS9 episode when they went back in time but it was the near future from the 80s perspective meaning that it's actually today?

                    We're going to have internet licenses soon

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                    We’re going to have internet licenses soon

                    They're called contracts with your ISP, they've been around for a while now.

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                    • I [email protected]

                      Lemmy is still very centralized,
                      sure there are many servers
                      and that takes care of the /u/spez problem
                      but very little else, most topic generally have one big community
                      and it's on the one big server

                      You can go elsewhere, if you like speaking into the void and nobody even hearing you.

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                      one big community and it’s on the one big server

                      Which you can follow from another server, what's your point?

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                        All it takes is one snapshot of legislator's IDs put online to poke a hole into this balloon.

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                        Back when the govt here started incentivizing people to ask for receipts the Prime Minister's fiscal ID was made public and the fucker starting having a lot of receipts in his name.

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                          What sucks is that once these laws are in place repealing them will probably never happen. There are far too many people who will benefit financially from this to allow that to happen.

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                          They're making it so that vigilante justice is the only form of justice the ruling class can receive.

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                          • buelldozer@lemmy.todayB [email protected]

                            decentralized apps, fediverse

                            Those apps and / or the fediverse itself would get sued into the ground and shut down one app or server at a time. There's nothing stopping any Governments authorities from going after servers inside their borders and there's nothing stopping them from "harmonizing" identity verification restrictions among other countries. They've already done it once with Intellectual Property law.

                            This push to de-anonymize the Internet isn't new either. Microsoft started this back in the oughts with their Passport / Digital-ID program. Google and Meta, along with others, long ago launched their own versions and it's why you can sign into so many websites with a Google or Facebook account.

                            It's generally referred to as IdP and now that the Internet has been fully corporatized, with minor holdouts, you can bet your bippy that the days of anonymous access are ending.

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                            Those apps and / or the fediverse itself would get sued into the ground and shut down one app or server at a time.

                            Time to self-host your own instances. Sites like yunohost try to make it easy.

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                            • darkdarkhouse@lemmy.sdf.orgD [email protected]

                              Get your coat, we’re leaving.

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                              The ruling class is eager to make it so the only way to fight back against them is with bullets.

                              They don't know what they're in for.

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                                What do you mean by that? Most of the infrastructure that makes up the internet is owned by like 6 companies.

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                                infrastructure that makes up the internet is owned by like 6 companies.

                                GAFAM holds a large chunk of social media HTTP/S traffic, plus cloud crap. That's all application layer.
                                Do they own main trunk IP routers too?

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                                  It is so complicated that you're both correct and incorrect. US government added to it, yes. I'd argue the fundamental work was independent researchers from multiple countries (UK, USA, France). I'd argue the critical infrastructure was multiple non-profits.

                                  Also the question is "what exactly is the beginning of the internet". Is it usenet? Telnet? Arpanet?

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                                  Nope. The US government Department of Defense literally funded and created the internet. It was initially called Arpanet and was mainly US government sites. This is why few people use the .us domain. Because the initial domains .gov, .mil, .org etc were all USA sites. Usenet is independent and does not require the internet and telnet is simply one program using the internet. Most of the core TCP/IP technology was created and funded by DOD also although it is possible some of it was pre-existing.

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                                  • dozzi92@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                    I assumed they meant aliens.

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                                    Illegal aliens.

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                                    • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

                                      Yeah, it's all relative. It's like the www before corporate takeover. Like the old www, you need to have some sense on where to go and where to avoid.

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                                      before corporate takeover.

                                      The good old days, yes.

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                                        Whats up with gemini lately? Havent seen anything about it since before covid

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                                        Them pods are a gigantic rabbit hole. A hare hole if you will.

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                                          It’s about the information vacuum. Now every service will get your ID or photo, giving them both age and a whole sort of other metrics to build a profile on you. And yes, Lemmy.ca doesn’t know that about me.

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                                          every service will get your ID or photo

                                          To be fair, that's not how it will work. The site and the identity verifier will be two different things, the verifier only attests that you are not underage and the site doesn't get your identity.

                                          Still harmful though, because you can be sure that there will be scamsites redirecting people to fake but real looking verifiers for blackmail and identity theft purposes.

                                          I for one will never put my ID or photo into any age verifier ever.

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