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  • I [email protected]

    It likely does. The chaotic bumrush wouldn't be permitted by the airlines if it didn't work. The sense of panic in promotes is probably good for deplaning averages.
    Like so many things that are good for corporations, it's very damn unpleasant for customers.

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    No, it doesn't speed up deplaning for some asshole to block me from getting my bag down and make me have to wait until later because they think they're special. It's a line and they're skipping it.

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    • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

      You have no idea what opportunity I had, not that it matters. I want to stretch and I have zero idea why it bothers you or anyone else here declaring it a crime.

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      Because it's a cramped space.
      People who get up when the plane touches ground are going to be standing in the walkway with their bags and butts pressed against other people for all the time it takes for the plane to taxi in and connect the doors to the terminal or stairs.

      They do not get out faster.

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        Because it's a cramped space.
        People who get up when the plane touches ground are going to be standing in the walkway with their bags and butts pressed against other people for all the time it takes for the plane to taxi in and connect the doors to the terminal or stairs.

        They do not get out faster.

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        Being ready to go means faster by definition and also how is anyone in the aisle's butt pressed against people in middle and window seats? That doesn't make any sense

        Ps. you're not allowed to stand while taxiing is occurring.

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          Blame the airlines for that. Some are still allowing free carry on, but charging $75 for a checked bag. This is entirely a problem created from airline greed.

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          Vote with your wallet (wherever possible)

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          • flamekebab@piefed.socialF [email protected]

            Staying out of the way of all the people rushing is somehow the problem?

            Explain.

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            It's not complicated. You just said you're in no hurry. Unless you have a window seat, you couldn't possibly not be slowing others down.

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            • flamekebab@piefed.socialF [email protected]

              I was speaking more generally, not about flights specifically, and about how common it is.

              Adults throughout my life seem to constantly be rushing to everything. As a proper big boy adult now myself (I'm almost 40) I still don't get how it's so pervasive. My comment was more about how common it is, not about reasons people might be in a rush. I can think of plenty of reasons any given person might be in a rush on a given day but so many people seem to be in a perpetual mad dash. That bit boggles my mind.

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              My point still stands. Everyone is living their own lives and have their reasons for being in a hurry. Not everyone is a chill dude like you.

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              • sketchyseabeast@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                But it's not just saving time, I want my stuff to make it to my destination too, and too often it doesn't if you check it.

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                I've travelled for work all my life, I've flied idk, hundreds of times, my luggage got lost exactly one time, when I got a connection in Switzerland, they left it on the tarmac. Luckily it was my toolbox, not my personal bag.

                Another time my luggage lost me, meaning they loaded it on an earlier flight and then cancelled mine, so my luggage got to destination and I didn't. That was on a flight from Miami to New York.

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                  Every time I’ve checked my bags I’ve been called a moron because my bags are going to get lost.

                  And sadly those people are not wrong, I’ve had my luggage lost twice, and they don’t pay you back for that.

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                  I’ve had my luggage lost twice, and they don’t pay you back for that.

                  Excuse me?

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                  • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                    No, it doesn't speed up deplaning for some asshole to block me from getting my bag down and make me have to wait until later because they think they're special. It's a line and they're skipping it.

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                    Are you making assumptions or do you have stats on this?

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                      If they managed where luggage was stored in the overhead, they could reduce it 10 fold. The whole wait is because people need to go back x rows past people standing to get their luggage. Even if they made everyone sit and deboard in zones it could be way faster.

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                      • I [email protected]

                        Are you making assumptions or do you have stats on this?

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                        If you did you would've shared them.

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                          And then they run out of overhead room, so they check your bag for free anyway.

                          So they miss out on the revenue, slow things down, and add logistical complexity to a process that is already notorious for losing track of critical items.

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                          The other consideration it has is on net luggage weight. Yeah, they're still checking bags for "free" but they're smaller and lighter - saving fuel by increasing efficiency. And that's also a good thing from a pollution point!

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                            To all the people telling OP they're wrong, you don't fly enough. The issue isn't evenly distributed. It's not like cars in traffic or whatever.

                            Airlines put the expensive seats in the front. The people who can afford them are usually much older, either traveling retirees or very late career white collar workers who have significant status. They're the first ones holding up everyone because they take forever to find all the assorted shit (personal item, oversized roller bag, neck pillow, laptop, ipad, lost earbud, etc) they've stuck all over the place, which the gate agent/FAs wouldn't admonish them for because of their aforementioned status. But they're first class, so the peasants behind them can wait in the bread line.

                            After they get off (on watching you glare), depending on airline, it's the fraction of people who are old and not rich, or don't fly often and aren't used to all the ritual. They'll have placed their bag in an overhead that's 12 rows behind them and demand everyone stop and crowd surf it up or else they'll just sit there blocking the line.

                            After them come the young vacation families, you know, the ones who had the screaming baby for the last 6 hours. They couldn't be bothered to pay for seat selection to save money so one parent is with one kid three rows ahead but needs to coral the kids behind them because the other parent was playing on a Nintendo switch for the whole flight and didn't try to organize all the kids toys, now lost to entropy, and so the marital spat and bawling (louder now) children begin.

                            Then there's you. You fly a lot so you have nothing more than two pairs of underwear and a toothbrush, all safely hidden from the TSA in your prison wallet and ready to go without so much as a nanosecond of notice, along with your phone and airpods to combat the screaming child in front of you. You got 31B, way in the back, after trying to game united's seat assignment system by checking in only after all but the exit row seats were taken, but someone missed their flight and here you are.


                            Generally the legacy airlines will have the most old people, but the vast majority of people on them are very used to flying, because they know better than to book a budget airline. It'll be slow yet ordered.

                            The budget airlines like united and frontier will be the opposite, lots of young spry 20 somethings, but lots of vacation families that couldn't afford Delta... I won't sugar coat it, it's gonna be a shit storm. The FAs have been contractually required to keep everyone at the very edge of their sanity through the enforcement of a variety of draconian company policies (like turning on all the lights half way through a redeye to scream about some credit card offer), so things are primed for chaos. Lots of shoving and yelling. Everyone's reviewing the Wikipedia "list of crimes of passion" to see if this qualifies.

                            Then there's spirit. Half the people on the flight will be coming down off of something they got on the dark web by the time you arrive at the gate. You've already seen at least a liter of blood spilled from various fist fights. Everyone was already up and crushing each other in the aisle long before the captain even briefed the approach. The FAs have locked themselves in the lavs by now and the captain (an FFDO) has barricaded the flight deck with charts and duct tape and is aiming his questionably modded P320 at he door. Welcome to the new season of Hunger Games - Spam Can. You're on your own, good luck and good hunting.

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                            Where's Chapter 2? 🤓

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                              Because it's a cramped space.
                              People who get up when the plane touches ground are going to be standing in the walkway with their bags and butts pressed against other people for all the time it takes for the plane to taxi in and connect the doors to the terminal or stairs.

                              They do not get out faster.

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                              Best ones are those who can't actually get to the aisle so they're standing with their heads ducked under the overhead compartments.

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                              • flamekebab@piefed.socialF [email protected]

                                It's remarkable how many people in these comments detest people wanting to have a chill time when flying.

                                We're not slowing the rest of you down - we're getting out of your way. There's so many moving parts that an extra five minutes are so far down the list of things that I'm just not fussed.

                                Trains are a bit different - there rushing can make all the difference. The limiting factors there are usually how quickly one can get between platforms!

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                                It's not the people who are chill and out of the way, it's the 80 year old dude who forces his way in front of you, who is totally not ready to get moving, looking for his stuff while in the aisle, can't get his luggage down by himself and walks slower than hell.

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                                  If they managed where luggage was stored in the overhead, they could reduce it 10 fold. The whole wait is because people need to go back x rows past people standing to get their luggage. Even if they made everyone sit and deboard in zones it could be way faster.

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                                  It's this. Stay the fuck down until your row is clearing.

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                                  • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                    If you did you would've shared them.

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                                    I'm betting on the money. If you think the airlines haven't looked at whether it would be more expedient and therefore profitable to organize deplaning or leave things to animal instincts you are underestimating their greed.

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                                      No joke. I hate waiting for people who are inefficient and slow getting off a plane. If everyone just waited a few seconds to stand up, me and my one piece of carry-on could walk straight to the door without delay. I hate this aspect of flying more than almost any other. A late landing making me miss a connecting flight is still the worst, however.

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                                        Or like that one time where I put my shampoo and conditioner in baggies so they wouldn't spill over my luggage, and TSA took them out to test the liquid, THEN PUT THE DE-LIDDED CONTAINERS BACK IN THE SUITCASE WITHOUT THE BAG.

                                        Wasted all my shampoo and conditioner, and I had to do laundry in the shower on vacation because there wasn't a washer available.

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                                        Did you ask the hotel? If you are nice they might wash it for free

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                                          Vote with your wallet (wherever possible)

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                                          Vote with your wallet (wherever possible)

                                          The last large airline to NOT charge for checked bags in the USA, Southwest airlines, has switched to charging for bags.

                                          Oddly the ones that have the best outcome for the deplaning scenario from this bad situation of paid checked bags are the ones that also charge for carry ons like Spirit or Frontier in the USA. So there is an incentive to NOT bring a carry on because you'll be charged for it and instead just pay to check a bag (which has more capacity).

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