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  • tomenzgg@midwest.socialT [email protected]

    Not directly to your point but your overall experience just reminds me: we really lost something when the sexual liberation movement was largely erased. People so often dismiss it because we're conditioned to dismiss taking sex seriously (outside of a very narrow and specific context) but there's a lot we lose from that.

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    Was it erased? We are more comfortable with porn than ever (which I wouldn't say is okay, but definitely not prudish), and after the jews, the biggest boogie man out there is the gender lobby.

    I say we're in the next phase, and moderators (Visa, Mastercard) need to buckle up for what's coming.

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      Imagine the debuff that blueballs would inflict because you missed the quicktime event

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      Imagine if the game knew you save scummed and gave you a blue balls debuff.

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      • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

        I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

        Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

        Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

        Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

        Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

        And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

        The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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        Your post made me want to check these out. I only ever played one with a friend for kicks. It was a fun, cheap activity, easy to make a drinking game out of.

        It's like how erotica can still be literature, but people dismiss it for the sexual focus. But I've read erotic stories that had me hooked, made interesting social commentary, had nuanced characters and were just a fantastic time.

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          Was it erased? We are more comfortable with porn than ever (which I wouldn't say is okay, but definitely not prudish), and after the jews, the biggest boogie man out there is the gender lobby.

          I say we're in the next phase, and moderators (Visa, Mastercard) need to buckle up for what's coming.

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          We are more comfortable with porn than ever

          Are we (edit: 'hope that doesn't sound antagonistic; I more meant it rhetorically)? No-Nut November has only recently dipped in the general consciousness and goon is currently trending as a pejorative. I think we're comfortable with pushing the boundaries and with nodding and winking towards it but outright normalization has a fierce backlash.

          But part of what the sex. lib. movement was about was both normalization and healthy interaction with sex, not just sexual content being prevalent. There's plenty of unhealthy ideas and performances that the mainstream porn industry perpetuates, much of it relying on satisfying a normative and patriarchal outlook; feminist porn, for example, was/is a much more sex. lib. approach to porn (from giving women more active participation in the sex portrayed (rather than just the receptive of it) to also having the performers express their emotions more (even if minimally) and how the sex they were having made them feel).

          These goals are much more in line with the emotional experience OP was describing, where it's not just sexual content but a more healthy engagement with that sexual content as well, such as experiencing emotions and attachment. That's part of why OP's descriptions reminded me of it.

          Mainstream porn, driven by capitalism (which isn't to say all of us aren't in some degree, even indie creators; sadly, that's just the reality, right now), doesn't care about these things.

          And sex. lib. has a distinct history and activism, much of intertwined with gay liberation and…I think most people don't know that or, like, the battles that were fought for information about safe sex, etc. I mean, it's not unique (most people aren't aware about disability history, for example, or events like the Capital Crawl) but it's still deeply unfortunate.

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            Imagine if the game knew you save scummed and gave you a blue balls debuff.

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            You could easily code the game to do that, and it would be hilarious.

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              https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/

              I think onscreen chemistry peaked in Casino Royale. Now it all feels clinical/sterile.

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              And this isn’t just the lead and the love interest: supporting characters look this way too, and even villains (frequently clad in monstrous makeup) are still played by conventionally attractive performers. Even background extras are good-looking, or at least inoffensively bland. No one is ugly. No one is really fat. Everyone is beautiful.

              Heh, this reminds me of this scene in Last Action Hero (Just watch until 1:34 or so for the scene I'm referring to.

              Honestly though, I think this might be starting to change. Looking at shows like Resident Alien and Wheel of Time, for example, there are plenty of casting choices that go against that trend. Now, I'm not saying anyone in these shows is ugly or anything like that, but there are a lot of folks being cast who are not "classic Hollywood pretty" and it's very nice to see. I like seeing people playing the everyday Joe art who actually looks like an everyday Joe. It really breaks immersion for me when the "ugly girl" part is played by someone who is beautiful dressed in a frumpy outfit.

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              • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                I've always been open to adult only games, but for the vast majority there are only two basic types:

                • Visual Novels - Everything about these is fine. They vary from basically just a graphic novel to a full on RPG.

                • Nude Puzzles - Various cheap-ass puzzles with nude images as the prize.

                I want, like, a real game but with full adult only content. These exist, but are hard to find. And a lot of those I've found aren't finished, never will be finished, and/or just suck. It doesn't even have to be the focus. Just imagine if when you got a hooker in GTA or some other game where brothels might exist, you got to see more than a fade to black/car bouncing around.

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                You may have come across it already but Hardcoded may be in the realm you're thinking? https://store.steampowered.com/app/2693710/HARDCODED/

                It's still in development but they've done a ton of work on it too, already, be pretty flashed out game and its development hasn't slowed any over the years.

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                  Your post made me want to check these out. I only ever played one with a friend for kicks. It was a fun, cheap activity, easy to make a drinking game out of.

                  It's like how erotica can still be literature, but people dismiss it for the sexual focus. But I've read erotic stories that had me hooked, made interesting social commentary, had nuanced characters and were just a fantastic time.

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                  people dismiss it for the sexual focus.

                  I stand by this: porn is a largely untapped medium for insanely stupid comedy.

                  I know we've all seen lemon stealing whores and whatnot, but like, we could have so much more than we do.

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                  • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                    I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                    Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                    Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                    Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                    Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                    And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                    The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                    Its wild how gooning and porn are so normalized to the point they harass real woman in their comments and dms 24/7 but god forbid a porn game, I like them ocassionally, when I don't want to be lazy and I'm in a gaming mood, it's like reading some Choose your own adventure erotica with visuals, but the story is porn story adjacent

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                      Its wild how gooning and porn are so normalized to the point they harass real woman in their comments and dms 24/7 but god forbid a porn game, I like them ocassionally, when I don't want to be lazy and I'm in a gaming mood, it's like reading some Choose your own adventure erotica with visuals, but the story is porn story adjacent

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                      It seems less bad to me, I actually have to use my brain a little, idk I get bored using the same content daily, every one in a while I'll use vr, comics, books, or a game, but tbh whenever I start to need something extra like that I just don't jerk off for a day to normalize, don't want to enter the gooner mindset

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                        quicktime events

                        Damn I missed the cumshot quick time event. I'm not going to get an s rank for this chapter. Guess I gotta reload...

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                        These are the QTEs that Aphrodite wanted us to have.

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                        • apeman42@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                          I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                          Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                          Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                          Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                          Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                          And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                          The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                          Hunnie Pop is the best Bejewled type game ever made. ❤

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                            We’re so conditioned to think realistic violence in games is fine, but realistic sex in games is “wrong” or “sad”.

                            Not just in games. In all media. You bring to mind a great quote from George R. R. Martin.

                            “I can describe an axe entering a human skull in great explicit detail and no one will blink twice at it. I provide a similar description, just as detailed, of a penis entering a vagina, and I get letters about it and people swearing off. To my mind this is kind of frustrating, it’s madness. Ultimately, in the history of [the] world, penises entering vaginas have given a lot of people a lot of pleasure; axes entering skulls, well, not so much.”

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                            japanese manga is a nice counter to this

                            the media targeted to older readers has many well done stories that contain realistic sexuality (good and bad)

                            and i’m not talking about the stupid shit like jacking it in the river gave me a half fish half man son

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                              I too claimed the games to support the cause. I randomly chose Treasure of Nadia to start and found myself really enjoying the game and story. I just finished it last week and went on to buy the developers other titles (⁀ᗢ⁀).

                              I'll have to give the other titles a try soon!

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                              I've been wanting to play that game for so long! It looks so good, outside the porn aspect.

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                                I've never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur's Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

                                Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and... some of them are kind of good?

                                Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you're cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

                                Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

                                Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I've ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

                                And Crom help me, when I finished... sigh... Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

                                The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I'd been led to believe, and I wouldn't have known that if the censorship thing hadn't started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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                                I've only ever played one VN and it was wonderful: Katawa Shoujo 💛

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                                  people dismiss it for the sexual focus.

                                  I stand by this: porn is a largely untapped medium for insanely stupid comedy.

                                  I know we've all seen lemon stealing whores and whatnot, but like, we could have so much more than we do.

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                                  And people are trying to shut it down. It's a damn shame.

                                  Oh well, we still have the absolute chaos that is ammateur, self-published erotica.

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                                    Your post made me want to check these out. I only ever played one with a friend for kicks. It was a fun, cheap activity, easy to make a drinking game out of.

                                    It's like how erotica can still be literature, but people dismiss it for the sexual focus. But I've read erotic stories that had me hooked, made interesting social commentary, had nuanced characters and were just a fantastic time.

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                                    got any recommendations?

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                                      If you're open to a platformer, the only explicitly adult game I've tried is FlipWitch. The gimmick is that you can change your sex, with certain obstacles only able to be passed through by a specific sex. You also have clothing that can only be worn by each sex, and certain NPCs won't interact unless you're wearing certain items. It's a solid metroidvania, and while it's not going to blow you away, I still enjoyed my time with it.

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                                      Oh yeah, I saw that one earlier and threw it on my wishlist for later. It looks pretty good. I picked up Scarlet Maiden instead for now, which is also a pixel-based naughty game, but looks to be a roguelite and is supposed to have great gameplay too.

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                                        I've been wanting to play that game for so long! It looks so good, outside the porn aspect.

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                                        I would recommend it. It's got an interesting story, problem solving, and great puzzles. There isn't any story impacting decisions because the main character sleeps with everyone.

                                        I'm playing the prequel to Treasure of Nadia, Lust Epidemic and don't like it as much. It's older and the animation isn't as good and the story is much more rapey and cringey than TN. So it's nice to see that the developer has grown. And also the games are connected. I'm not sure how yet, but I did meet characters from Lust Epidemic in Treasure of Nadia. I bought the latest offering from the developer, The Genesis Order, because of course it continues. But I might hold off on playing that and jump back into Expedition 33.

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                                          We’re so conditioned to think realistic violence in games is fine, but realistic sex in games is “wrong” or “sad”.

                                          Not just in games. In all media. You bring to mind a great quote from George R. R. Martin.

                                          “I can describe an axe entering a human skull in great explicit detail and no one will blink twice at it. I provide a similar description, just as detailed, of a penis entering a vagina, and I get letters about it and people swearing off. To my mind this is kind of frustrating, it’s madness. Ultimately, in the history of [the] world, penises entering vaginas have given a lot of people a lot of pleasure; axes entering skulls, well, not so much.”

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                                          well tbf one of the detailed sex scenes (in the book) is between a 30 yrs old khal drogo with a 13 year old daenerys targaryen, and it's being depicted as a good thing, he's the first guy that cares about her

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