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    No, you’re not.

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      ^^^ I love this human. ^^^
      Not only did they post a nice answer towards my comment, they're actually settling what could turn into an internet argument from the get go!

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      Awe shucks! 🤭

      I dunno, I've spent enough time in online communities that I'd rather not start fights over things that can simply be talked through. I'm happy to hear Bennyboy's response too if they still disagree with me and believe me to be mistaken, but there's certainly no reason for hostility!

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        You're clearly an enthusiast and are one of the exceptions I spoke of. Calm down and think critically, please... Most people did not have Spectrums, Commodores, ham radios, etc. Enthusiasts like you absolutely did, and yes, you knew your shit if you did.

        These days everyone has advanced electronic devices. Eveeeeryone.

        You really came out swinging for no reason there, eh?

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        Not an enthusiast. Im the average. And you calm down, or send you to bed without any supper!!!

        And as for "coming out swinging", youre god damn right. Cos you people are either ignoring us, or just making up dog shit about us. And now youre giving the shocked Pikachu face, cos someone got sick of the bullshit lies? Dude... I guess that another thing your generation love to do. Make it look like the bullied person standing up for themself is the asshole. Fuck, how you lot love to do that.

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          Not an enthusiast. Im the average. And you calm down, or send you to bed without any supper!!!

          And as for "coming out swinging", youre god damn right. Cos you people are either ignoring us, or just making up dog shit about us. And now youre giving the shocked Pikachu face, cos someone got sick of the bullshit lies? Dude... I guess that another thing your generation love to do. Make it look like the bullied person standing up for themself is the asshole. Fuck, how you lot love to do that.

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          When you always assume bad intent, don’t be surprised people treat you as shit

          By generalizing a generation, you’re doing the exact same thing you’re accusing people of doing, I hope you realize this

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            Not an enthusiast. Im the average. And you calm down, or send you to bed without any supper!!!

            And as for "coming out swinging", youre god damn right. Cos you people are either ignoring us, or just making up dog shit about us. And now youre giving the shocked Pikachu face, cos someone got sick of the bullshit lies? Dude... I guess that another thing your generation love to do. Make it look like the bullied person standing up for themself is the asshole. Fuck, how you lot love to do that.

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            I'm not at all giving a shocked Pikachu face in reaction to your comment, if you believe otherwise, you're misreading my intent. I'm also not talking down towards you as a person, doubting your skills, or bullying you. Based on your responses here, I believe you to be a very tech inclined person and are probably highly skilled. A lot of us here on Lemmy fall into that category regardless of age.

            What I am saying is that you came into this conversation unnecessarily hot and that your view is likely skewed because you yourself are a tech enthusiast. You come from and are a product of tech, and as such may not realize the lack of tech abilities of those outside of your bubble.

            I'm also not saying that Boomers/Gen X have to be bad with tech, or even that all Millennials are. My main point is to highlight median household exposure over different generations leading to memes such as this. For example, in the U.S., only ~8% of households had a computer in 1984 and ~15% in 1989; the UK was ~9% in 1984 and ~17% by 1988 (Source on Census.gov, page 6). PCs didn’t become mainstream at home until the mid to late '90s. By then, late Gen X/Millennials were the teens/20-somethings doing the hands-on fixes, which is why the "Millennial IT support" meme resonates. Skip to kids nowadays growing up on iPhones and tablets and other out of the box easy to use devices that Just Work^TM^, they didn't get the same experience learning to fix shit themselves like the older or middle generations had.

            To reiterate, none of this says older folks, nor younger, can’t be great at tech, just that cohort exposure and the kind of tech we grew up with differ and has had it's influences on the whole of generational groups, while not defining every individual within those groups.

            If you still feel attacked at this point, that's 100% on you and I don't know what else to say.

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              I tried to get into the whole Arduino thing as a Gen Xer. I couldn't believe the complexity and back story you need to know before getting started. Totally baffled by the whole thing. Just give me a processor, some memory and a serial port. Why do I need an IDE, drivers, a bootloader, fifteen different kinds of whatevers I don't understand, yes, I am burned out, where are the Doritos?

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              You can just install and invoke the compiler directly, and you only need a driver if you're on windows and using the bootloader to program it, and you don't need a bootloader if you have an ISP (programmer) so you can flash it directly, and you don't need anything else though one of the main reason people use Arduino is for the libraries

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                But I'm Generation Z and I have to update my mom's Linux Mint laptop because she can't pay attention when I show her.

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                  i figured gen z would start fixing my computer once i hit my current age (41); turns out i dont know any gen z's that understand how computers work.

                  im really tired of being everyone's tech support 😞

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                  I am gen z and just writing my bachelor's thesis for computer science/Cybersecurity. Many of my peers are in CS too.

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                    When you always assume bad intent, don’t be surprised people treat you as shit

                    By generalizing a generation, you’re doing the exact same thing you’re accusing people of doing, I hope you realize this

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                    No shit, sherlock. Did you figure that out all by yourself, or did you have break out a special magical box of crayons to help?

                    I mean, I couldnt have made any more obvious if Id written it in pink glittery neon shit.

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                      No shit, sherlock. Did you figure that out all by yourself, or did you have break out a special magical box of crayons to help?

                      I mean, I couldnt have made any more obvious if Id written it in pink glittery neon shit.

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                        I'm not at all giving a shocked Pikachu face in reaction to your comment, if you believe otherwise, you're misreading my intent. I'm also not talking down towards you as a person, doubting your skills, or bullying you. Based on your responses here, I believe you to be a very tech inclined person and are probably highly skilled. A lot of us here on Lemmy fall into that category regardless of age.

                        What I am saying is that you came into this conversation unnecessarily hot and that your view is likely skewed because you yourself are a tech enthusiast. You come from and are a product of tech, and as such may not realize the lack of tech abilities of those outside of your bubble.

                        I'm also not saying that Boomers/Gen X have to be bad with tech, or even that all Millennials are. My main point is to highlight median household exposure over different generations leading to memes such as this. For example, in the U.S., only ~8% of households had a computer in 1984 and ~15% in 1989; the UK was ~9% in 1984 and ~17% by 1988 (Source on Census.gov, page 6). PCs didn’t become mainstream at home until the mid to late '90s. By then, late Gen X/Millennials were the teens/20-somethings doing the hands-on fixes, which is why the "Millennial IT support" meme resonates. Skip to kids nowadays growing up on iPhones and tablets and other out of the box easy to use devices that Just Work^TM^, they didn't get the same experience learning to fix shit themselves like the older or middle generations had.

                        To reiterate, none of this says older folks, nor younger, can’t be great at tech, just that cohort exposure and the kind of tech we grew up with differ and has had it's influences on the whole of generational groups, while not defining every individual within those groups.

                        If you still feel attacked at this point, that's 100% on you and I don't know what else to say.

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                        "Im not talking down to you" then proceeds to talk down to me... What a prick.

                        Im not in any "bubble", cunty chops. But you might be. Once again, not an enthusiast. Is there another language I can say that in? And my experiences, the ones I was talking to you about, were from the 80s and 90s. EVERYONE had some form of computer, like I said. If theres GenX around today that dont know about them so much that they need to annoy their genz kids, they are the fucking minority.

                        As for feeling attacked, no. You misunderstood. Im utterly fucking sick of wee dicks, spouting generational war bullshit. You know, like you dweeby little millennials pricks that cant even get a fucking girl to touch you without an app.

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                          Solid comeback...

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                            Gippers?

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                            Kind of a fond/humanised name for chat gpt me and some colleagues use. We've dubbed it our idiot friend, 'Gippers'. Its commonly wrong and there's a group of colleagues who trusts it and a group who doesn't. I think we anthropomorphised the machine a little, and also its maybe a little cringey.

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                              Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z, etc. are marketing bullshit that need to stop being used in the common lexicon.

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                              Agree.. Cringe.

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                                Solid comeback...

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                                Thanks

                                If that can make you feel better, I agree that millenials suck at computers. I mean sure they can do some basic stuff, but most people I know don't know shit really

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                                  "Im not talking down to you" then proceeds to talk down to me... What a prick.

                                  Im not in any "bubble", cunty chops. But you might be. Once again, not an enthusiast. Is there another language I can say that in? And my experiences, the ones I was talking to you about, were from the 80s and 90s. EVERYONE had some form of computer, like I said. If theres GenX around today that dont know about them so much that they need to annoy their genz kids, they are the fucking minority.

                                  As for feeling attacked, no. You misunderstood. Im utterly fucking sick of wee dicks, spouting generational war bullshit. You know, like you dweeby little millennials pricks that cant even get a fucking girl to touch you without an app.

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                                  proceeds to talk down to me

                                  I wasn't talking down to you, I was explaining my perspective backed up with facts you clearly did not look at. I'd ask if you could point out where you feel I'd done so, but as you can see later in my comment, I no longer care.

                                  EVERYONE had some form of computer

                                  This is statistically impossible as you can see from the source that I provided from the US Census Bureau.

                                  What a prick. ... cunty chops ... you dweeby little millennials pricks

                                  Name calling. Nice, dude. For your age, I'd expect you to be more mature. I'll just be reporting, blocking you, and moving on. I tried to have a cordial conversation with you, but you are clearly not capable of doing so. Have a nice day, and a nice life.

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                                    Well I don't know... I worked with boomers who first built out the internet in my country. Now they mostly retired, but the Gen-Xers who remain are also incredible.

                                    My dad who's also a boomer and an anesthesiologist got admin rights at the hospital he worked at because he helped everyone around with their computer troubles and the tech support trusted him and were happy he reduced their ticket load.

                                    Maybe you guys just know the wrong people.

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                                      You're using that word again. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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                                      Boomer is a mindset not a timespan.

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                                        Not all of Gen Z are tech illiterate. Some of us used computers before iPads and smartphones. I used Windows XP and 7 long before I ever got a smartphone.

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                                          There are some parts of Gen Z that can actually tear stuff apart and actually fix systems, but those are the nerds (which also includes me) that care enough to actually learn stuff. The majority is quite tech illiterate

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