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EU OS: A Fedora-based distro 'for the public sector'

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  • pirky@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

    EUbuntu?

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    Fedora based actually

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      From the subheading on the ReadMe.

      Community-led Proof-of-Concept for a free Operating System for the EU public sector 🇪🇺

      So it's made by the EU in the sense that the maintainers are likely citizens of the EU, I guess.

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      Depending on who the group is ... it is good to first do a thorough check on who the group is ... it can just as likely be a group of scam artists that are riding on some nationalism band wagon happening around the world these days.

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        Fedora based actually

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        EUdora, since I don't think the mail client is still under development

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        • spicedealer@lemmy.dbzer0.comS [email protected]

          It's only a proof of concept at the moment and I don't know if it will see mass adoption but it's a step in the right direction to ending reliance on US-based Big Tech.

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          I wonder how much work is entailed in transforming Fedora in to a distro that meets some definition of the word "Sovereign" 🤔

          Personally I wouldn't want to make a project like this be dependent on the whims of a US defense contractor like RedHat/IBM, especially after what happened with CentOS.

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          • spicedealer@lemmy.dbzer0.comS [email protected]

            It's only a proof of concept at the moment and I don't know if it will see mass adoption but it's a step in the right direction to ending reliance on US-based Big Tech.

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            @SpiceDealer Sorry, what ? How can it be made in EU if it's a Fedora fork/derivative ?
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            • cypherpunks@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

              I wonder how much work is entailed in transforming Fedora in to a distro that meets some definition of the word "Sovereign" 🤔

              Personally I wouldn't want to make a project like this be dependent on the whims of a US defense contractor like RedHat/IBM, especially after what happened with CentOS.

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              I read the sovereign to mean something like an unified platform for EU institutions, that you can dev and train people on.

              dependent on the whims of a US defense contractor like RedHat/IBM

              A very good point.

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                From the subheading on the ReadMe.

                Community-led Proof-of-Concept for a free Operating System for the EU public sector 🇪🇺

                So it's made by the EU in the sense that the maintainers are likely citizens of the EU, I guess.

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                Alr thanks

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                • pirky@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                  EUbuntu?

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                  They should call it EUROS.

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                    From the subheading on the ReadMe.

                    Community-led Proof-of-Concept for a free Operating System for the EU public sector 🇪🇺

                    So it's made by the EU in the sense that the maintainers are likely citizens of the EU, I guess.

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                    So it’s made by the EU in the sense that the maintainers are likely citizens of the EU, I guess

                    Even after that, be reminded that this current mania in the EU has nothing to with being anti-american or wanting to dump American products or services themselves. The people who are most into this are anti-Trump, not anti-american or fundamentally against Europe being subordinate to the US. Most of them are probably secretly wanting the world to return to 2024 and EU being US junior partner of "the west" and happily eating MacDonalds and using microsoft services. It's not an European sovereigist movement at it's core and therefore it has not staying power after Trump or Maga.

                    It might be that these people are just Foss enthusiasts with pure intentions wanting to promote the cause by riding the wave. However if the wave is just a meme conjured because of Trump then this project or things like it have no staying power or future even if it really being an EU project or being adopted tomorrow.

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                      I read the sovereign to mean something like an unified platform for EU institutions, that you can dev and train people on.

                      dependent on the whims of a US defense contractor like RedHat/IBM

                      A very good point.

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                      Shame that Brexit happened, otherwise they could go with Canonical's Ubuntu

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                      • m33@theprancingpony.inM [email protected]
                        @SpiceDealer Sorry, what ? How can it be made in EU if it's a Fedora fork/derivative ?
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                        Yeah, not a lot of distros they could've based it on, which are less rooted in the EU. 🫠

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                        • m33@theprancingpony.inM [email protected]
                          @SpiceDealer Sorry, what ? How can it be made in EU if it's a Fedora fork/derivative ?
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                          As a Swede we claim all of linux to be finno-swedish 🙂

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                            Depending on who the group is ... it is good to first do a thorough check on who the group is ... it can just as likely be a group of scam artists that are riding on some nationalism band wagon happening around the world these days.

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                            They could, and if I was an EU government entity, I would do my homework on what they were offering, even if they were acting 100% in good faith.

                            However, helping governments get away from the clutches of the likes of Apple and Microsoft seems like a noble goal, and if this idea spurs that change regardless of the adoption of this distro, I think it will have been a net positive.

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                            • m33@theprancingpony.inM [email protected]
                              @SpiceDealer Sorry, what ? How can it be made in EU if it's a Fedora fork/derivative ?
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                              Of all the distros to base it on, why would they choose fedora?

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                                They could, and if I was an EU government entity, I would do my homework on what they were offering, even if they were acting 100% in good faith.

                                However, helping governments get away from the clutches of the likes of Apple and Microsoft seems like a noble goal, and if this idea spurs that change regardless of the adoption of this distro, I think it will have been a net positive.

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                                Government is only in the clutches of MS because MS bribes officials to maintain their cancerous software as a staple everywhere in Europe... Hungary is one of a few quite famous cases of bribery.

                                There's no depth to my loathing of MS and its illegal and anti-competitive practices.

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                                  Of all the distros to base it on, why would they choose fedora?

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                                  openSUSE is right there lol

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                                    Yeah, not a lot of distros they could've based it on, which are less rooted in the EU. 🫠

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                                    OpenSuse is German

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                                    • m33@theprancingpony.inM [email protected]
                                      @SpiceDealer Sorry, what ? How can it be made in EU if it's a Fedora fork/derivative ?
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                                      I mean Fedora is open source but if they really wanted a european base, they could have gone with opensuse. AFAIK opensuse is the only fully european linux distro plus they use many of the same tech that redhat/fedora does.

                                      Ultimately I think it doesn't matter too much since even the linux foundation is based in the US and large parts of what makes the linux desktop are maintained by non-EU companies (on top of all the major projects hosted by Github, Gitlab including most of Flathub). If its all open source, I think the risks are pretty low e.g. huawei was able to use Android despite all the restrictions.

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                                      • spicedealer@lemmy.dbzer0.comS [email protected]

                                        It's only a proof of concept at the moment and I don't know if it will see mass adoption but it's a step in the right direction to ending reliance on US-based Big Tech.

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                                        And it's based on fedora? Man, that's great

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                                          Government is only in the clutches of MS because MS bribes officials to maintain their cancerous software as a staple everywhere in Europe... Hungary is one of a few quite famous cases of bribery.

                                          There's no depth to my loathing of MS and its illegal and anti-competitive practices.

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                                          It's going to have to start at the local level. They're usually the ones that have less budget and less influence to sell, anyway.

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