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  • O [email protected]

    Switching from WhatsApp to any other messaging service isn't a realistic option for quite many places. I'd be more than willing to switch but of all the people in my contacts (including my entire customer base) there's like 3 people using Signal but every single one of them has WhatsApp. Even the 60+ year olds.

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    My trouble as well, I'd love to switch from Whatsapp, but literally every person I talk to and most people in my city/estate/country uses It.

    There's a "vendor lock" term, maybe this would be a "social lock"?

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    • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deE [email protected]

      Don't use Matrix the devs knew about sidechannel vulnerabilities and ignored them for years. This is peak negligence and should immediately disqualify you from touching anything security related.

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      You don not have a solution.

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        Signal is not Fediverse! Element/Matrix is!

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        No, Matrix is federated differently.

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          Facebook Marketplace - > Craigslist

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          No, that's anti-libre software.

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            Is there an android app for loops.video? I can't find one.

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            Loops is anti-libre software.

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            • elrecoal19_0@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

              So Matrix it is?

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              I was told that unless you self host, matrix is less secure because it leaks more metadata. Something to consider

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                Hi, I think too many people are focusing too much on the type of software included in this chart. I don't think the goal of the person that created the chart was to create the ultimate guide to move to the Fediverse or FOSS apps with all the options available for them. I believe it prioritizes simplicity, and it's clearly directed towards people unaware that these alternatives exist.

                Most people I know don't even know what the Fediverse is, and I think this initiative is for them.

                I know that debating which FOSS/Fedi apps are the best is a big matter of concern for people that are already aware of the problems some platform have. But focusing too much on this debate not only creates more division among supporters of FOSS/Fedi, but it is also drawing attention from the main point: Bringing more people to the Fediverse.

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                Thank you. Please jump in faster with a tldr of this on copycat posts.

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                  Is there an app for Loops.video?

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                  • pseudo@jlai.luP [email protected]

                    Yes but it is still better than SMS.

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                    Saying it's secure feeds their scam. At least we don't pay for it like SMS.

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                    • kemsat@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                      Is there an app for Loops.video?

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                      There is one !
                      I have downloaded the APK, but I think there is also a testflight for iOS

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                      • malcriada_lala@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                        I like this. I hope it starts conversations. Does anyone know if there are good alternatives to Discord?

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                        Yes, there is Matrix

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                        • yarharsuperstar@lemmy.worldY [email protected]

                          I was told that unless you self host, matrix is less secure because it leaks more metadata. Something to consider

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                          Damm, didn't know that, good to know

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                          • malcriada_lala@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                            I like this. I hope it starts conversations. Does anyone know if there are good alternatives to Discord?

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                            TeamSpeak is doing an overhaul to be similar to Discord. You can self host.

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                              Personally I see no benefit in it.

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                              There benefit would be exactly what this top comment is about. For all those people in your contacts who don't use signal, you could still use signal to message them, it would just be an SMS message. It would therefore also become more enticing for people to switch from their stock SMS app to signal, because it would make no difference in terms of who you can send SMS messages to. It would allow for the signal user base to grow, solving the issue of "no one uses signal"

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                              • malcriada_lala@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                I like this. I hope it starts conversations. Does anyone know if there are good alternatives to Discord?

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                                There are a few that I can't recall off the top of my head

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                                  Saying it's secure feeds their scam. At least we don't pay for it like SMS.

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                                  You still pay for SMS? Wtf, what country do you live in? Most postpaid mobile plans these days only charge for data usage. In which case, your still paying to use WhatsApp.

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                                    My trouble as well, I'd love to switch from Whatsapp, but literally every person I talk to and most people in my city/estate/country uses It.

                                    There's a "vendor lock" term, maybe this would be a "social lock"?

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                                    It has to start with someone. I made my entire family switch to signal by boycotting WhatsApp. I just said, of you want to contact me your can either SMS, email or install signal. It was surprisingly easy. For non family members, I tell people to switch all the time. Most of my contacts now use signal. It was worth the trouble.

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                                      You still pay for SMS? Wtf, what country do you live in? Most postpaid mobile plans these days only charge for data usage. In which case, your still paying to use WhatsApp.

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                                      Most of the world.

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                                        No one pays for SMS.

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                                        SMS is generally free and unlimited with almost any postpaid mobile plan. If you're still paying for SMS then you should switch providers.

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                                        • kemsat@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                                          Is there an app for Loops.video?

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                                          Yup, its just called Loops, there is a download link once you log in. (On a related note why does everything keep like this picture keep calling it "Loops.video" when it is just called "Loops"? - we don't call it "Lemmy.ml", "Mastodon.social" or "Peertube.tv")

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