Tesla pulls out all the stops as Cybertruck sales grind to a halt
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EV trucks will never make sense. Hybrids can but I have yet to see anything I would buy.
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Weird, I've heard Elon's pull out game sucks balls.
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It makes more sense if you start from the other side - EVs are a niche market, and an electric truck is a small subset of that.
The Cybertruck sold 38,965 units last year, vs 33,510 for the Ford F150 Lightning.
Which is mind boggling, as the Lightning seems like a good, attractive vehicle, while the cybertruck seems like a pile of shit
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I'm assuming the electric f150 has greater than 1 wheel drive?
Actually most vehicles are only 1-wheel drive unless they have a locker or similar installed (4x4 would be "2-wheel drive").
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I'm surprised you mentioned the battery (which is a problem with any EV towing), and not the fact the hitch can just snap off if you hit a pothole hard enough.
Wait what?!?!
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Have they tried suing people who don't want to buy one?
They should force the government use cybertrucks for employe transportation just like Elon did with X and NTSB
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EV trucks will never make sense. Hybrids can but I have yet to see anything I would buy.
The Silverado EV and F150 lightning seem pretty decent from the specs, but towing anything they still seriously suck. But for most people they're actually already pretty good... Unlike the cyber truck.
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This news makes me smile.
I got a chubby
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EV trucks will never make sense. Hybrids can but I have yet to see anything I would buy.
I think they do/will make a lot of sense. Being able to drive to a job site and run your welder or other tools from the truck's battery seems like a game changer for certain applications. The Chevy Silverado EV and the F-150 Lightning seem pretty nice to me. They'll both be much more appealing once battery tech, charging speed, and charging infrastructure improve. I'm pretty stoked about this new company called Telo, I hope they make it. It's a pretty small truck with an 8' bed that's about as long as a Mini Cooper, plus it has the solar tech from Aptera.
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Other truck makers tend to let their vehicles fully render.
Gotta save some polygons.
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The Silverado EV and F150 lightning seem pretty decent from the specs, but towing anything they still seriously suck. But for most people they're actually already pretty good... Unlike the cyber truck.
You hit the nail on the head. If it can't tow it's pretty useless as a truck. If someone doesnt tow they probably dont need a truck in the first place otherwise they are better off with a gas model. The unfortunate thing is that regulations have forced manufacturers to implement shitty ICE drivetrains. Everything is a turbo now which is "more efficient" but there is no way they will last as long as the naturally aspirated V6 or V8s that would go for 400-500k miles.
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Which is mind boggling, as the Lightning seems like a good, attractive vehicle, while the cybertruck seems like a pile of shit
I have no need for a truck, and I still considered getting one. The Lightning is very impressive all around.
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If we had one more season of Silicon Valley, Russ would absolutely be rubbing finger prints out of his Founder Edition Cyber Truck.
The world would also just be a happier and better place with another season.
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What a shock, the meme car only sold a few units before people were over it. LoL
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The main reason I bought a truck was to tow heavy shit, and this piece of fuck trash Cyber truck can't even do that without the battery failing after less than 100 miles. Meanwhile an F150 can tow six times it's own weight thousands of miles.
Tbf itâs kinda a fundamental limitation of electric vehicles vs gas that the energy density of gas is way higher.
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I wish journalist would stop calling this PS 1 Pontiac Aztek "futuristic"; it just highlights how shitty our future is going to be.
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Nazi truck.
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The Silverado EV and F150 lightning seem pretty decent from the specs, but towing anything they still seriously suck. But for most people they're actually already pretty good... Unlike the cyber truck.
I've been following Edison Motors. EV and Hybrid both make sense and can work depending on the application. They managed some real work tests towing log trailers without the genset kicking on.
Personally, I would have a model line with the option to either have an all EV or hybrid drivetrain. Share parts from the battery to the wheel, but more batteries where the engine/generator would go if it's the pure EV option.
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You hit the nail on the head. If it can't tow it's pretty useless as a truck. If someone doesnt tow they probably dont need a truck in the first place otherwise they are better off with a gas model. The unfortunate thing is that regulations have forced manufacturers to implement shitty ICE drivetrains. Everything is a turbo now which is "more efficient" but there is no way they will last as long as the naturally aspirated V6 or V8s that would go for 400-500k miles.
Everything is a turbo now which is âmore efficientâ but there is no way they will last as long as the naturally aspirated V6 or V8s that would go for 400-500k miles.
uh, it's pretty common for turboed diesels to go over 500k miles. It's been standard since the late 90's.
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We're not all buying EVs for the environment. I bought an EV because I think the car is cool and it's really enjoyable to drive. It's nice that the "gas" is also significantly cheaper, but that wasn't high on my list of reasons to get the thing, either.
The EV owners I've talked to didn't buy them for the environment, either, but I haven't talked to any Leaf owners or anything. Maybe they're more environmentally conscious. It being better for the environment long term is definitely nice, and I hope progress continues on batteries made with less toxic components.
Thankfully, I did not buy a Tesla and they were never on my list of options because of Elon. So he definitely alienated a customer due to him being an awful human being. I also won't use any of their charging stations, since I don't want them to profit off of me.
You could say we bought our Teslas âfor the environmentâ in a way, though a bit roundabout. When we bought them (2018), it was after having previously leasing a Leaf which had shit mileage and poor performance over 40mph. We wanted to signal to the industry with our dollars that we wanted the EV movement to succeed. Because apparently money is the only thing they listen to. We knew full well that EVs were only a step toward a greener future or whatever but we wanted the industry to take that step and understand that being environmentally friendlier was important.
