Amazon Boycot March 7-14th | No Purchases. Its time to disrupt the system.
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Wtf do people even need from there that they can't get from temu or elsewhere..
WTF are you buying from Temu? Maybe it's just me, but I prefer actual products, not literal garbage.
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I will admit it's been super convenient if I need shampoo or toner or drinks or dozens of other things to just take 60 seconds to order it from Amazon and it's here in a couple days. Well it used to be. Now things often take many days to ship. I canceled Prime about 6 months ago.
You just listed things that you can pick up at any number of local stores. That stupid convenience of ordering crap instead of just adding it to the shopping list is why people think going a week without using Amazon will "disrupt the system." This is exactly the problem.
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Was it not in a 401k or something?
It was. Explain why I should be confident that the money will still be there IF I get to retire?
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I've genuinely never used amazon to shop, not even once, but only because it's always been the more expensive option compared to smaller shops. Right now seeing 5070ti tuf goes for 1400 on amazon, 1300 at my local store.
It's so bad and cyclical while just being unavoidable in some areas. On the map, you'll notice how heavily populated northern europe is compared to a lot of sparse areas which have less options. I'm in a relatively normal size town and there is one big box choice and maybe one defunct "local" store that's barely getting by.
I had to beg a guy in a corner shopping center "repair shop" for a small syringe of thermal paste when I ran out (I'm not fucking kidding, there's just no electronics store anywhere nearby, losing Radioshack was fucking hard). Dude at the shop was the only reason I didn't have to go online and wait a week (he wasn't selling it, just had spare for his own use). My trades and hobbies make this a common occurrence throughout the week. Most places now are forced to sell on Amazon to remain competitive (Amazon dominates with shipping cost reduction alone for large items), finding a local or even nationally based company through search algorithms becomes harder and harder as they can't pay to keep up with SEO bullshit. You can try to keep it all legit but with competitive monopolies everywhere you just eventually find out your favorite company no longer really exists.
There are some suppliers I could shop with but each one is an hour drive in different directions and 80% of the time they're ordering the same shit through the same companies I would be using if I went online. It works sometimes, but takes so much effort it becomes it's own full-time job that no one has the ability to keep up with.
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WTF are you buying from Temu? Maybe it's just me, but I prefer actual products, not literal garbage.
Amazon stuff is totally not literal garbage
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You just listed things that you can pick up at any number of local stores. That stupid convenience of ordering crap instead of just adding it to the shopping list is why people think going a week without using Amazon will "disrupt the system." This is exactly the problem.
It's kinda sad, I've been back and forth with online ordering actually being a "logistical god-send" for our chaotic consumerism. I mean think about it, one full delivery truck that can bring in a full neighborhoods worth of goods for the week/day versus every single car being driven to only transport a portion or less of a trunk (sometimes driving out for even one item).
In a perfect "non-monopoly/Amazon couldn't exist world" where everyone could plan ahead and have everything shipped, you could save on store/display costs (including environmental) and just have a smaller distribution center from semi-trucks to box trucks for local deliveries. Could even go from box truck to local end point distribution (biking,etc) so city spaces could go car-less. Keep the local farmers/co-op markets for socializing/freshest produce-shipping and bob's your uncle.
Instead we have the worlds most horrific amalgamation where you have underpaid people in fucking V8 trucks delivering a few bags of groceries someone has "door dashed" from the local grocery store or just a burger from a local joint so they don't have to cook because they only have an hour of free time a day.
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Is this a joke? Like 2k people on fedi don't buy anything from Amazon for a week?
These "economic blackout"s are completely futile. Especially if they only target a single service, or if they target a service as big as Amazon. If this blackout is for everything Amazon operates, you can't use Twitch, or Fire TV, or Prime Video, or Fire devices, or Kindles, or any website that is run with AWS. You think normies are going to sacrifice all of that ease of use for a week, and even if in some alternate dimension they have any self control over their consumption, they'll just go back to using Amazon.
Amazon will survive for 7 days. What about people all around the world that quite frankly don't give a fuck about uspol? What about subscriptions? Invincible 3x8 comes out in this time period? Nobody will watch it? People will stop using a third of the Internet, their streaming slop devices, their e-celeb propaganda outlets? It simply won't happen.
These blackouts are an immature way to "break the system, man". They completely ignore the reasons why normies go to the slop mill in the first place. The general population has 0 self control over their spending. They will consume, and consume, and consume, until they die.
If these measures are not enough; please suggest some more for us to take.
Don’t let “perfect” be the enemy of “good”.
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I week long boycott will do nothing. If that is the most you are prepared to inconvenience yourself to send a message, then just give up now.
If these measures are not enough; please suggest some more for us to take.
Don’t let “perfect” be the enemy of “good”.
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Americans really dont know how to protest...
I wonder if Amazon is pushing these "protests" to drown out the real ones.
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If these measures are not enough; please suggest some more for us to take.
Don’t let “perfect” be the enemy of “good”.
To be frank,
Constructive criticism has not been well received by anyone lately as apparently everyone just sees it as flat criticism and with the rise of internet echo chambers for every group, criticism in any form immediately points you as an other to be ignored.
People of all walks only want to hear what is convenient and self confirming.And also, people are not ubermensch and do not just have a working plan that perfectly replaces this one the same way this one is ineffective. It will take conversation and community to figure out what works. No one can plan or act alone.
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A boycott or strike with an end date is seldom effective.
See for instance Reddit
Not necessarily. The employees of airlines have been quite impactful with partial, random strikes in a method called CHOAS. Not everyone will strike at the same time and their strikes only last a few hours- enough to cause problems for the flight they've been scheduled on. This hurts the company without harming too many customers and has been effective in the past as a strike strategy.
Think of a partial strike as a warning that more could follow if demands aren't meet.
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It was. Explain why I should be confident that the money will still be there IF I get to retire?
Tax-free growth, beating inflation, diversification to mitigate risk & lessen volatility (eg, not putting eggs all in 1 basket).
Markets always have risk: if you're really afraid of risk, you can shift to mostly low-risk types of investments (bonds, money market, cash equivalents, etc).
Real estate is typically considered riskier.Retirement isn't necessary: qualified distributions (no tax penalty) only require reaching a certain age or any of the many exceptions (including terminal illness).
Early distribution with tax penalty is always possible.It's all basic information a certified financial planner or advisor or some articles on the internet can tell you.
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A whole 7 days??? Gosh gee willakers!!! You think people can uphold a boycott a whole 7 days???
Look. Boycotts are effective, but you gotta be stubborn. It's gotta be "boycott from now on" with no end date.
Otherwise, it'll just look like normal fluctuations in their business.
"Oh, this week was slightly down....ah, but then it stopped. We're good!"
But if you boycott forever, then their numbers continuously go down. And if you get other people boycotting, those numbers go down faster.
THAT'S how you make an impact.
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I will admit it's been super convenient if I need shampoo or toner or drinks or dozens of other things to just take 60 seconds to order it from Amazon and it's here in a couple days. Well it used to be. Now things often take many days to ship. I canceled Prime about 6 months ago.
I’m canceling Prime here in Brazil mostly because it’s getting more and more expensive, the selection of products with free shipping is getting smaller and I don’t even watch anything anymore on Prime Video. I realized the only reason I still have it is inertia from the good times when it costed me $2 a month—years ago.
It shows that Amazon was probably operating at a loss before to bankrupt the local competition, but now that they raised prices and offer less, it’s actually becoming a worse deal.
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I’ve been able to successfully degoogle, and recently came to terms that I need to deamazon too. It’s going to take quite a while. I’m a prime subscriber and use AWS.
I’m looking into Barnes and Nobel for future book purchases. I recently did a larger purchase online directly from the vendor instead of purchasing through Amazon. I plan to do more of that.
What’s been frustrating has been the small things. I needed a pill splitter, so I stopped at Walmart on the way home from work, dealt with some crowd and retraced my steps around the pharmacy a few times before I found it, then had to deal with self checkout. This would have been quicker and wasted less of my time to use Amazon. That’s going to be the hardest kind of benefit to give up.
AWS I’ll probably start migrating this summer. I’m planning to switch to Backblaze for cloud storage. I still need to look into an alternative registrar, and ideally very cheap static web hosting. I also need to find providers that have good ansible support since I use that for all my local and remote configuration.
It took years for me to get off Google. I worry it’s going to take even longer to give up Amazon, but yeah it’s time.
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I used to LOVE target but then they got rid of Mossimo, denim and flowers and anything else good they ever had and started carrying clothes for fucking Mennonites. Seriously, their clothes went from awesome to shit.
Yeah the true crime has been how awful cut and beige all their clothing options are now. But they have always chased which ever group they think is in power and spending cash and I guess it's wannabe trad upper middle class now, instead of queer upper middle class.
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Tax-free growth, beating inflation, diversification to mitigate risk & lessen volatility (eg, not putting eggs all in 1 basket).
Markets always have risk: if you're really afraid of risk, you can shift to mostly low-risk types of investments (bonds, money market, cash equivalents, etc).
Real estate is typically considered riskier.Retirement isn't necessary: qualified distributions (no tax penalty) only require reaching a certain age or any of the many exceptions (including terminal illness).
Early distribution with tax penalty is always possible.It's all basic information a certified financial planner or advisor or some articles on the internet can tell you.
And why should I be confident that any of that is going to survive the next 4 years?
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sounds easy considering I haven't bought anything from Amazon in years
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Not necessarily. The employees of airlines have been quite impactful with partial, random strikes in a method called CHOAS. Not everyone will strike at the same time and their strikes only last a few hours- enough to cause problems for the flight they've been scheduled on. This hurts the company without harming too many customers and has been effective in the past as a strike strategy.
Think of a partial strike as a warning that more could follow if demands aren't meet.
